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Discussion in 'Beginner Zone' started by dustedone, Jul 24, 2017.
Let s throw this one out there...
pros and cons for live play vs. automated video counsel play
No cranky employees
Lower minimums. Paid to the penny.
Self serve. Easier to bet (you do it)
No waiting. Rolls every 20-30 seconds
Payouts on par with table
Plenty of elbow room
Probably less cranky players blaming bad shooters
You can sit
You handle the dice (for those who think DI)
For those who think bubble craps has some setting ala a traditional slot machine to ensure profit..obviously that's an issue for them. Unfounded, but nevertheless.
I would guess that the limits are much lower on the bubble, making it a problem for bigger bettors.
It's NEVER a problem NOT getting ya nuts clipped for Big Money!
Yes. At RR they have capped some of the wagers to ensure there are not payouts in excess of $1,200 which shuts down the terminal for a hand pay. My understanding is that once that happens...they can do something with your terminal so it will not happen again. You will get paid and the machine will not shut down again. At that point you are in "their" system, ala 1984.
Max bet says $2,000 but I am unsure how that is figured out...for example, a field bet is capped at $399.
I've seen people cash out tickets in excess of $8,000...it's those single wager issues of $1,200. Bubble craps is considered a slot machine just like video poker in terms of payout. It's a legal issue.
Welcome back Dusty! Cranking up for football season?
Yeah, capping the bets at about $400, is really keeping a lot of players away?
Nobody will ever be able to trust dice, that fall the way bubble dice do. Idiots excepted.
Building on the list started by TDV, a few more items for consideration:
Pro Traditional Craps Table:
Player reward programs are better for play on traditional craps tables.
Comps from Pit Boss (outside of player reward program) based upon rated play that session
All Tall Small Bonus Bets (not sure if they are available on any BC machine).
Buy 4/10 for $1 vig is likely better (up to $40 on a traditional craps table)
No annoying voice repeatedly nagging the shooter to, "Push the button! Come on, push the button!!"
Pro Bubble Craps Machine:
There is no dumbass tossing a late bet onto the table, "often" resulting in a 7 out.
There is no dumbass throwing money onto the table after the shooter has the dice, "often" resulting in a 7 out.
No worries about a die hitting a chip on the table, "often" resulting in a 7 out.
No stick changes in the middle of a hot roll!
No dispute as to which player made the bet
No looking for / retrieving a die that flies off the table
Some don't like the rounded corners of the bubble dice. They can have that last second drunken swoon turn your hard eight into a 4-3 out!
But the dice could not exist in the bubble with sharp edges/corners.
Also...some bubbles only offer 2x odds.
Some offer up to 5x...I have yet to see higher.
Yep...seen it many times. I've also seen make a last second flip to....
not so much last second flip to
Now, you really got me laughing with your post, you now say that the bubble craps machine is a slot machine!
By legal definition...Yes.
Any machine game that accepts money thru a slot is a slot machine and is subjected to the $1,200 win issue (W-2G)
There are two kinds of slot machines...
Those that work off a "hold" percentage...Buffalo or wheel of fortune slots for example...
and those that work off a RNG or 52 deck card generator or in the case of bubble craps, a vibrating floor inducing a random result. These games, by LAW must offer the same probabilities as the live table version of the game.
This would be...
forgetting all the obvious pros and cons of a bubble vs live craps,
the one good thing about bubble craps is that it is another option for people who want to play craps and still have the exact same odds and payouts as a live game.
many will never believe its the same, (which ofcourse, obviously, it isn't, the dice are bigger, betting is done thru computer terminal, no one handles dice, etc.....), but the results are identical(if you don't believe in dice influence)
Me, I don't care about how I get there, my only concerns at gambling are winning, and after 4-5 years of bubble craps, no one alive can convince me its any less of an experience gambling wise, as far as positive results, than any live table. The experience is totally different as a player, but I only consider my bankroll at the end.
I also believe Ive done better at the bubble overall than at the live tables, not sure why, maybe less distractions? More focus on just my terminal, not watching all the other hands, or worrying about dealer pays, or a dealer accidently swiping my bet off the table. I can watch my bets work without watching my bets security.
I haven't experienced any bubbles cheating me yet.
I haven't been issued any tax forms on any wins over 1200 dollars, only cashing in one ticket over 1200 in flamingo las vegas, all the rest of the big ones have been here in NY.
Its rare my bets will exceed the betting max on a bubble, so that isn't a big concern.
Only got a little pissed off at bubble in gvr because it didn't let me lay more than 25 dollars on any number.
but that's the bubble, and for most, it isn't an issue. In NY, I can lay as much as I want as long as its under the 1500 or 2000 dollar table total max bet. (I don't recall where the max is now)
It's not the rounded corners, there is more to it than that.
Just your opinion, with nothing to back it up!
If I could "back it up" then it would not be, just my opinion. I will never be allowed sufficient excess to prove anything, but I know what I see, and what I see, does not appear random. The non-randomness, may not be "findable" it may be cyber. And those sort of things, have been missed by "Gaming authorities" in the past. They can be disguised as something else, they can be very hard, or impossible to find.
I've played this game regularly for the past 4-5 years...FWIW, I'm confident it's a fair game. How much time do you have invested in bubble craps?
Of course any game can be screwed with...even table craps, roulette or blackjack.
Enough to know that something is amiss.