Table Minimum and Odds

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  1. von duck, Nov 26, 2017

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    DeMango has "bone tracker" software, so better watch out man. :D.
     
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  2. basicstrategy777, Nov 26, 2017

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    I'll give him a bone to track.......he needs to remember..." age and experience will beat youth and skill" , every time. Whipper-snapper.

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  3. yacraps, Nov 26, 2017

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    I usually hop red on the come out ;)
     
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  4. yacraps, Nov 26, 2017

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    He read it once and didnt get it, you might have to draw him a picture :rolleyes:...and if he ever purchases your book your gonna have to make it a special one with big pictures :D
     
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  5. yacraps, Nov 26, 2017

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    LMFAO....:D
     
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  6. SevenOut, Dec 4, 2017

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    The Craps Table crew will take any wager that the House has the advantage. The Boxman will accept or reject any offer of a wager, even if that wager is not on the layout. Corporate Casino's may want to keep these wagers from being made, as the Boxman may be an accountant and not a Craps Dealer in a previous lifetime.

    A Put Bet gives the flat bet advantage of the Come to the table. It is not that the Craps Table does not accept these wagers, it is because the majority of Craps Players are ignorant of the skipping the Come into a number of choice. It then follows that if you have a Come Bet moved into a number, you can Press the flat wager in order to increase your Odds wager. Again... favors the table, as long as you do not exceed the tables' odds maximum.

    If you want to exceed the tables' maximum odds, Put the wager while having a Front Line wager and Odds. If that does not confuse the Craps Crew... they are on top of what you are doing.

    When the Dealer or the Boxman accept a wager... it is a contract. You must have chips in the rack to be collected, after the roll, win or lose, and the bet is placed and then procedure takes over.

    The majority of Craps Players today, and especially the DI crowd, are not seasoned Craps Players. Watching them play makes one's eyes sore from the pure lack of a System, working off of their setting for outcomes. If that worked, they would start their wagering HIGH and as they win wagers, take the profit and reduce their exposure to the eventual Seven Out.

    The reason why no one can win any argument in Craps, is that one must consider that the first rule of Craps is 'A player can make a wager of any kind, as long as the House retains the advantage and the table accepts it as a viable wager, BEFORE the dice are pushed to the current shooter'. It is a he said, she wants... debate. NO BET says you are... wrong.
     
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  7. James Hall, Dec 4, 2017

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    does the put bet suck?
     
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  8. The Midnight Skulker, Dec 4, 2017

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    No, it blows. "Suck" is just a figure of speech. And so is "Put" apparently.
     
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  9. yacraps, Dec 4, 2017

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    When it loses:)
     
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  10. DeMango, Dec 4, 2017

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    Good post there 7out. Maybe you can explain to BS the difference between a come bet and a put bet. I think by the term "whippersnapper" he is insinuating that old age trumps craps rules. And explain a put get can go anywhere, not just on the pass line. These old farts go off the rails when you correct them.
     
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  11. James Hall, Dec 5, 2017

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    I HAVE NEVER PLAYED THAT BET
     
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    You're exactly right 777.
     
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  13. Speedracer7, Dec 5, 2017

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    Thanks for the great explanation. Since I posted this question, I have been to 4 casinos and have asked the dealers if I could make the less than minimum odds bet. In each case the answer was "yes".

    If I understand your point about the Put Bet...... the player can make the put bet AFTER the come out point is established........and you can press the put bet and take odds behind that bet, increasing the odds whenever you choose to. Is that correct?

    I was one of the those who needed a betting method to go with dice influencing..... I was betting $22 across for the most part and although some of my rolls were long...... I was not winning so much. I have since changed that........but am still looking for "the method". Thanks!
     
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  14. DeMango, Dec 5, 2017

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    Across is not a viable method unless you cut way down on 7's, use place to come, or have an initial regression. Put bets should not be used unless you are getting and using 10X odds.
     
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  15. DeMango, Dec 5, 2017

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    Come bets that don't travel? He is exactly right? Shirley you jest! He doesn't know the difference, and he wrote a fookin book! What he thinks is a come bet is really a put bet!
     
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  16. Speedracer7, Dec 5, 2017

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    Can you clarify that last point about 10x odds?
     
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  17. Speedracer7, Dec 5, 2017

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    One other question: Can the Put Bet be made --in addition to-- your pass line bet that also has odds behind it?
     
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  18. Speedracer7, Dec 5, 2017

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    Can you clarify that last point about 10x odds?
     
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  19. DeMango, Dec 5, 2017

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    Simple. When you put a bet, say a $5 nine and place 2x odds. you have $15 that produces $19 when it hits. If you would have placed the bet for $15 you would have been paid $21. That is why put bets, paying even money, are a bad bet unless the true odds payout make up for that. 10X odds does that, anything higher works even better.
     
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  20. DeMango, Dec 5, 2017

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    Yes. Some people do that to get more money in action when they reach table limits.
     
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