This is exactly what a random roller will do with a progression play or build up play. What's the difference between the random guy and the DI? Apparently nothing. If results are the "separation" between the two....then at this point in his career he should no longer have to tip toe. Phil Ivey Hellmuth Do not "tip toe" into $3-$5 poker games.... That is because they know they are skilled and don't need to even consider starting at those paltry amounts. This tip toe suggests a DI simply does not know what will happen...much like a random roller does not know. There are many random rollers here who progress wins. I fail to see the difference in their approach vs. a guy who says "it's not random for me"....but takes the exact same betting approach. I'm hearing luck, variance...more than anything else. When it goes bad, maybe the DI guy makes an excuse for the loss (bad mechanics) while the randie simply says bad luck. The route or thinking may be different...ultimately the destination is the same. In other words...tis better to blame oneself rather than lady un-luck. It's a mindset. Same goes for a win. I don't see an issue with that thinking. It does no harm. If it adds to ones ego not to be thought of as a randie (as James Hall does)...so be it. The separation for the two players should be much like poker. The randie starts at the $3-$5. The skilled one starts at $100-$300. It's nothing more than a Kelly. Buy in to overall winnings. A pittance at this stage in their career...IF they are skilled. IF being the holy grail word. These debates...like a train with no destination. Just keeps going. Something along those lines...especially after 40 years. truer words never said...and it applies to everyone.