Sticking Together

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  1. JGreen6918, May 24, 2012

    JGreen6918

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    Do the dice have to stay together in the air after you release them, or is it ok if they separate? I've been watching the GTC videos, and the Dominator's dice separate also. I guess this is because of air resistance?
     
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  2. Southern-Comfort, May 24, 2012

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    Physically together, no. Forces of nature will cause some seperation, which is good. You wouldn't want them hitting each other on the table. Forward movement should be together, they should hit the table and backwall at the same instant.
     
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    You dice should not separate by more than an inch or so. They should rotate at the same speed, pretty much in mirror image of each other. There are better videos on the market than GTC's - including mine. Just my opinion but I've pretty much seen all of them and very few actually follow the dice from the shooter's fingertips to the landing on the table.
     
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  4. JGreen6918, May 24, 2012

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    I don't doubt that you're right about better videos being out there. I've paused the video in the middle of Dominator's throws and I can already see that the rotation of each die is different because he uses a hardway set and the faces of the dice are different in the air. But of course, they land on a hardway, so that must have been because of DI, and not random chance even though the dice were rotating differently, right? Haha. Honestly, it has me doubting the validity of some of these DI experts.
     
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  5. BlackChip, Jun 3, 2012

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    The beginning to the end the moment the dice start separating too much in mid air. Dice will land too independent of each other.

    Main cause bad grip /and not enough back spin. No consistency with this throw.
     
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    Well, the great thing about casino craps is that there's plenty of room at the table for everyone. As a guy who teahes dice control I can assure you that the more people who DON'T believe there's any validity to the theory - the better I like it.
     
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    Heavy -

    I am intentionally quoting you out of context -

    My opinion on this matter as well as others ( DI's ) -

    Kindly keep them at YOUR table -

    NOT OURS !

    As I/we like them as much as you ( smiley inserted here ) -

    WE do NOT like them as much as you allude to the fact that YOU do !

    Would rather play Bingo alone than craps with some of these pro's !

    Although -

    Without " THEM " - where would " WE " be ? !!!!!!!!!
     
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  8. JGreen6918, Jun 6, 2012

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    Sorry to sound argumentative, but I seriously doubt that this is true. There has to be an upper limit to the percentage of the craps population that you wish didn't believe in DI. If there were only one DI believer in the world other than yourself, I don't think you would make very much money from your DI seminars.
     
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  9. kaysirtap, Jun 9, 2012

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    Agreed. There is a difference between a market niche and no market at all.

    However, I think we all knew what Heavy was getting at.
     
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  10. siik2nr, Jun 11, 2012

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    As mentioned, as long as they are not more than a few inches apart, they should be fine. If they separate more than that, they will not bounce on the same axis as you released them. Then when they hit the back wall, it will compound the error and more likely to spin on wrong axis.

    You want them to land as perpendicular to the back wall as possible. This way when they hit the back wall, they will spin horizontal on the primary number that was showing when it hit. If they hit the back wall on the wrong axis, it's possible they will spin horizontal on the 6 and 1 axis and you will get a horn if you're lucky or the dreaded 6/1....7 out.
     
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