S.C.D.I. Exist only in the Mind

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  1. SevenOut, Jun 1, 2018

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    Professionals earn an income possessing skills that are important to others and themselves.

    They display these skills to others as proof their abilities having mutual value. They do not need to demonstrate these skills in privacy. An important part of their profession is to do so publicly to be beleived.

    We have 'So Called DI’s’ on the CrapsForum. They 'mouth off’ constantly and critical of discussion requiring facts and tangible evidence. They provide no concrete information as to their qualification to be near a Craps Table. Casino personnel have no concern that a S.C.D.I. has arrived at an active Craps Table. The hunted do not fear those who pretend to be the hunter.

    Why? Because DI is not a skill that can be quantified by... talking and blathering. The Casino Staff are not concerned about their presence near or at a Casino. Talk is cheap and inexpensive. Facts are much too scarce a commodity to those who pretend to offer a product that cannot be demonstrated… at a moments notice to those who would recognize a fraud from possibility.

    Years on this Forum, we have yet to meet a S.C.D.I. or representative, who have directly or indirectly through observation such a skill, without secrecy and claim saying nothing is enough proof that they possess any skill, other than argument. A poor argument is not evidence, nor a contrived fact does not prove what did not exist, other than someone’s imagination.

    Any individual, to date, has not described or demonstrated gaining financially at a Craps Table within a Casino, any technique to improve the statistical odds against losing, including deviations that are not due to any problematic skill to manipulate the outcomes of a pair of dice. Other than random good fortune, or financial ruin in the process.

    One cannot demonstrate, only what exists in private, as proof. One cannot offer as evidence from private demonstrations, among other believers, what cannot be demonstrated outside of their own closed associations as evidence DI exists. Ever.
     
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  2. von duck, Jun 2, 2018

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    :( Could somebody, direct me to the nearest bridge please. :cool:
     
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  3. SevenOut, Jun 2, 2018

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    You will note that I did not mention Golden Touch Craps or Dominic LoRiggio. Just those DI Imposters on this Forum.

    A true professional operation.

    I did not mention Frank Scoblete. A true professional.

    Or John Grochowski or others that provide accurate information.

    These imposters posting as experienced DI's, etc on The Craps Forum... and insulting the intelligence of Craps Forum members are a fringe element of Craps Degenerates.

    Jacob has developed a wonderful website at no charge, well organized and a small group degrades the entire Forum when new members comment, or other experienced Craps Players comment as to these individuals putting out bad information. Every time I browse the latest tirade of insults, you are insulting Jacob, the Craps Forum and any legitimate members who really have an interest in Craps.

    A great poster child is Post #2. A homeless person living under a bridge.

    Von Duck hasn't the guts to do anything on a bridge, but become a member of the Degenerate Craps Community. With 5,480 posts since 2-10-2017, obviously this guy has more than a screw loose under his kitchen cabinet.

    When you have no money, no concept of Craps... you talk about making 'big money'. They insult everyone in the community and why go to the nearest bridge? Spend some time at a Craps Table and then get a job to pay off all of the Markers.

    As with any 'free internet site'. The Bad will run the Good away.
     
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  4. Twelve4s, Jun 2, 2018

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    Not all the good guys run away.

    Look at Tom P, a good guy till the end.

    He’s just one example, there are others who stay, some use the ignore button. Some use their cerebral ignore button. Some choose to stay for amusement or just to pick up a nugget here or there. I may not agree with some posters POV, but I can still learn from them. Craps is a great game because it punishes the Dullard’s, those who refuse to learn from their errors or from others wisdom. It’s a great equalizer. Around a Craps table all are equal to the dice. The dice have no favorites. They could care less how you’re dressed, where you live, what you smell like, how many chips are in your rack. They do their thing regardless of how you fondle them. It’s a wonderful game and a game of wonder. IMO, that’s why we’re here, trying somehow to make sense of a game, that can’t be made sense of. The struggle shall continue.
     
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  5. James Hall, Jun 2, 2018

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    What is S.C.D.I. ?
     
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  6. Twelve4s, Jun 2, 2018

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    Copy cat or wannabe.
     
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  7. The Comeback Kid, Jun 2, 2018

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    "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Carl Sagan
     
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    S.C.D.I sounds like a mental disorder , more or less
    like a venereal disease of the mind
     
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  9. SevenOut, Jun 2, 2018

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    S.C.D.I.

    The same people who do not know what they have been posting and discussing on other Threads, lately.

    So Called Dice Influencers

    These same people blame the dimensions of dice producing... bias.

    The dimensions of a pair of dice, nor the diameter of the pips used at a Craps Table do not distort dice outcomes.

    I compare this to the idea that a Blackjack player would complain that cards being used at a Casino Blackjack table are smaller or larger, causing basic Blackjack play to be invalid.

    Dice use the dimension of .750" as perfect and convenient. They are easily handled at a Craps Table. The pips are easily seen at the receiving end of the Craps Table and by the Stickman. The mass of these dice deter any manipulation, or what has been discussed on the Forum as SCDI.

    Small dice, when gambling was illegal, could be swallowed in a vice raid. To be used later by those posters prior to this post.

    DI is a Craps Religion on this Forum. Too much time is applied to the handling of dice and no time considering the System to accompany their expected outcomes. Too many DI promoters load up the Box Numbers and will never regain their losses with this NON System of Play. Logic is excluded. Why set dice for preferred outcomes, yet wager on all?

    Those who need to practice on a 10, 12 or 14 foot Craps Table, at home, is for entertainment... only. You have no edge over someone using a white sheet on top of a table. It is not the table that makes a Craps Player, but the knowledge of expected outcomes and wagering.

    Much like Post #7. Ignorance is not an education. Carl Sagan only repeated what others have done before himself. This is how education is suppose to work. This is what a SCDI does, but ignorant of what others have done to point out the error in their ways. Ignoring your own results at a Craps Table should be enough evidence.

    I tossed out a Craps Game where a Seven wager was paid even money and not a Seven Out at a Craps table. The ignorance of those who read, but did not respond was overwhelming evidence that the majority posting haven't a clue what Craps and a Pair of Dice have in common. The narrow vision and pure ignorance of any mathematics is stunning, considering most claim to be influencing a pair of dice, but for what purpose?
     
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  10. Bases loaded, Jun 2, 2018

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    After you replied to me with some nasty insult a while back, I said I would no longer respond to your posts. I will make an exception here.

    I was actually agreeing with you, if that mattered, but you were just looking for a fight. So be it.

    Though your posts may be full of knowledge and insight, your demeaning attitude toward the rest of us is a turn off, if you care.

    Good luck to you, and have some fun.
     
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  11. SevenOut, Jun 2, 2018

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    I take no offense towards any response, but respond with facts and not opinion. It is part of the learning process.

    Read the posts that follow anyone who have legitimate questions or responds to some of the 'gang'.

    You added nothing to the conversation. You did not even give your idea of this or the discussion you mention.

    I am not here to make friends, Craps buddies or join a group of roving critics, with no idea of what they are promoting or supporting. There are those I have high consideration on this Forum. There are many who are Trolls and have lowered the standards on this Forum.

    You need to be less intimidated by printed words. Discuss ideas, not your feelings at the moment. If the information is over whelming your senses, brush up on Craps.

    I would advise you not to read a book written by a professional. You would not be able to emotionally contain yourself and would write the author a similar note. I cannot debate opinions or obscure observations unknown to everyone, but yourself. Facts speak for themselves. They can be debated, honestly.

    Your opinion of me, tells others more about yourself.
     
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    One thing that amazes me in the discussion of shots and sets...is that nowhere is there ever a mention of the pyramids, which are specifically designed to induce random chaos into dice results.

    Take a look at Ricks slo mo videos and tell me the dice hitting pyramids offers some control or influence over outcome or even where the dice end up when they finally stop bouncing around.

    To me, it's akin to suggesting you can ignore the 6 elm trees in front of you while you pull out a 3 iron for a 200 yard shot to the green.
     
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  13. Dave G Ct, Jun 2, 2018

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    You ever wonday why these heros with flawed betting are always attacking DI? Makes you wonder doesn't it.So Seven Out before attacking something you know little about get your own house in order.
     
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  14. SevenOut, Jun 2, 2018

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    Dave... I offered a number of Systems under Advanced Craps.

    I had a guy who said I could not collect vertebrate fossils on a Ranch in western Nebraska. When I said it was perfectly legal with the permission of the Ranch Owner... he responded that I should not be 'yelling at him'.

    Do not criticize the messenger, but the subject material. What do you disagree with?

    People on the Math Gaming Sites would tear me a new rectum if I were in error. They are also less likely to find themselves at a Casino wagering, as well. They have the Odds down to fractions of a percent. We are playing with up to 50% errors. I say 'up to' so there is no error to argue in this range.

    Follow NokTang under Dice Influencing. Post #2 by Dave G Ct... comes up. You are just a wonderful person. Look in the mirror with... Bases Loaded, Post #9. Another two faced back stabber on the Forum.

    SuperRick had the right idea. Leave the Cess Pool and find a real swimming pool at home.
     
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  15. James Hall, Jun 2, 2018

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    The thing about the pyramids is , they are a big problem , so avoid them , or use them to your advantage
    if you don't know how to use them , take them out of the , "EQUASION" avoid them
    Damn it TD , pay attention
    See right there is where a guy starts having trouble , not only
    in golf but in craps as well
    Once a guy starts thinking , "DON"T HIT THE ELM TREES" he is focusing on the wrong thing
    and any hope of pulling off a good shot is gone . He must concentrate , rather,
    on what shot he wants to hit . The same is true in craps
    Focus on the proper things , winning becomes much easier
    Stop playing , "NOT TO LOSE"
     
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    I was visiting a few moments ago with a friend in Vegas
    He said , "Some time back you were on a table with him and some others
    at Rail Road pass and was able to make some pretty good money on their throws
     
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    As requested
    "Dice hitting pyramids offers some control or influence over outome
    or even where the dice end up when the finally stop bouncing around"
    That's why the casinos put them there , to offer that influence you mentioned, the pyramids will
    randomize the dice , "If you are not careful"
     
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    Betting one or two numbers would be ideal if those
    one or two numbers were all you rolled but there are others that will
    sho and each of those , "OTHERS" is a missed opportunity
    and brings you one roll closer to that , "7"
    It is thos players who play one or two numbers and the come
    who are in danger of never recouping their losses
    To win back those small losses you must have a number of sizable wins
     
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    You come across as being cranky or somewhat agitated
     
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    He is the "Angel of Death". And apparently a kiss ass also, noting that there are are some exceptions to the "nobody can do it" rule. If it is possible to do it, what makes him think that he, and he alone, knows who is the real deal and who isn't. I am the only one that knows that! :cool: Well, maybe not the "only" one.
     
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