REVERSE Martingale System

Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by SevenOut, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. TDVegas, Feb 2, 2019

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    Harley?
     
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  2. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    What do you mean admitted ??
     
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  3. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    Harley what ??
    You seem to be at a loss because you can't seem to figure out how to win
    so you try to save face by badmouthing those who have.
     
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  4. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    6th hit pull the profit redirect.
    Why is that so difficult for you to understand.
    You're arguing just to argue and you know that never ends well for you,
    you always pick the wrong side of an argument.
     
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  5. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    Well guys you really must excuse me
    we are going to grab some lunch and get back at it
    for a bit.
    You know what Parker needs.
     
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  6. von duck, Feb 2, 2019

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    They should be kissing your ass, to get free information, Sir. :)
     
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  7. SevenOut, Feb 2, 2019

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    Well... a wheel fell off this wheel barrow, while shoveling out the Barn.
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Feb 2, 2019

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    For a 4 or 10, P = (3/36) ^ 6 = 3.35 x 10^-7 = 3.35 x 10 ^ -5% = 0.0000335%

    For a 5 or 9, P= 0.000188%

    For a 6 or 8, P= 0.000718%

    For any 6 consecutive box numbers, P = (24/36) ^ 6 = 0.0878 = 8.78%, quite a bit (4 to 5 orders of magnitude) better, but still not real likely.
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Feb 2, 2019

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    Is he getting another new plane? If so, please post a pic before LID does.
     
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  10. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    Pressing a $10 bet 5 times on a box number and taking it down on the 6th hit

    for a 6 or 8 you would have $1144

    for a 5 or 9 you would have $1,992

    for a 4 or 10 you would have $7,290

    Reinvesting house money to increase the size of my bets could be
    viewed as a force multiplier.
    I am not concerned with losing the $10 I am
    focused on how much I will win.

    In the case of the 5 & 9 betting $10 to win almost $2000
    It's a risk and reward game , I'll take the risk and of course
    I am more than happy to take the reward,

    PLAY TO WIN.
     
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  11. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    Trouble is I think those guys either don't like me , they are mad at me
    or they wish I would just quit talking about how to win
    or they wish I would play the way they do
    Well the problem with all that is

    If they don't like me they are just going to have to start liking me.

    If they are mad at me , they are just going to have to get over being mad

    If they wish I would just quit talking about how to win
    I'm not going to quit talking about how to win because TDV
    said I should talk about how I win. Now I talk about how I win he's mad at me
    for talking about how I win.

    If they want me to play the way they play I'm not going
    to play the way they play , I like to win and I have bills to pay.

    Sounds to me like they got a few problems to solve and they
    better get busy solving them or I just won't talk to them anymore.
     
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  12. TDVegas, Feb 2, 2019

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  13. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    No he's not getting another new plane but he wants a
    helicopter so bad he can taste it.
     
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  14. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    We had a couple of ultralights for awhile , they are
    a kick in the , "@$$" .
    You sure have to watch the wind.
     
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  15. von duck, Feb 2, 2019

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    I'm sure they will all get over it Sir, except FredP, her posts are so lame, I'm embarrassed for her. :cool:
     
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  16. James Hall, Feb 2, 2019

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    The problem is they feed off each other . One attacks then another till
    you wind up in a situation where ya have to kick them all in the , "@$$"
    The worst part is when it's over they don't seem to be embarrassed
    then a day or two later for more.
    They are like a gang of 9 year old bullies looking for someone
    TO KICK THEIR , "@$$".
    But then it is fun , I always win.
     
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  17. SevenOut, Feb 3, 2019

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    Left with a $5 profit at the Keno machine yesterday.

    I finished my beer as my wife and I watched a full Craps Table. Sunset Station now promotes $3 Place Bets. This is like putting stink bait on your fishing line in Missouri to catch Carp... but this is for the Suckers in the Craps Community.

    Some of the worst wagering I have watched serious money wasted. One player was playing the Come. Most were playing all the numbers and pressed upon wins. One guy bought in for $800 and acted like he was getting his private parts tickled while the table was kicking his special nut(s), if any.

    There were Place Wagers being hit, one Pass. Five Seven Outs.

    It was an absolute slaughter. A Don't Pass player would have done well.

    After reading posts about how many times Forum Members believe Place Bets can be hit, repeated several times... take some of this medicine being given out at a locals Craps Table. Two tables were open. I saw no winners at this table. The lucky ones left early with little to show.

    I do not make this up. Watch the action. If this does not open your eyes to the absolute stupidity of how players think they can catch that roll that cleans out the Table's Bank.... spend one hour watching. It is like curing an Alcoholic, after a puking binge for three days.

    This is a common event. Absolute stupidity. This money has to be stolen from a relative to waste on one game, repeat and while shooting... repeat the butt kicking.

    Keno is said to be a 'suckers game' with long odds. Let it be, so. The real money is made from the suckers who have no business at a Craps Table and should stay home paying off some bills.
     
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  18. tabletop123, Feb 3, 2019

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    The players that have no idea as to what numbers their dice set will produce....bet Across.

    The guys that know which numbers their dice set should produce, bet the Father, & son numbers, ie.. 2V = 4/10 as primary hits, or 5/9 as Secondary hits. THAT is where it stops. Every other numbers hit with the 2V is pure luck.

    Ya see.....you have to set very strict guidelines if you THINK you are influencing the dice....otherwise you'd be prepared to toss a TON of rolls to know if you have influence or not.

    If ya ain't getting primary or secondary hits......you're simply getting lucky. Just MY opinion.
     
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  19. SevenOut, Feb 3, 2019

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    TB123 , you are on top of the strategy.

    Several were setting dice, mostly from habit of not shooting the dice that the stickman pushes in front of you. That I can understand.

    One guy, right handed, was setting and had a good steady routine. He was to the right of the stickman and would make a $1 bet for the dealers on a Hardway. He was doing all the numbers and was next to the $800 buy in Player. This guy also did the habitual set and shoot routine.

    If any of these guys were setting for Inside Numbers with hard way set... they had ground chicken for brains. Just squandering their Bankroll.

    How often can an observer watch and want to ask these players "What's your Strategy"?

    That is the teacher in me. Screw up. Repeat. As if something is going to be coming in the near future to regain your losses. It happens, hopefully sooner than later. By later, you have no Bankroll left to get any return to cover losses.

    You do not need a 10, 12 or 14 foot table to practice... Strategy. An $8 small layout is more than enough and a dice cup. If you cannot win at home, the table is just a bigger community of similar losers.

    No one stopped, took a break and watched the slaughter. They either walked or kept at a System that should be narrowly focused on getting better returns when a number hits. Then knock the wager down. Time at the tables is not an advantage.

    Time at the Keno is an advantage. A $20 bill playing 20 cent 6 number Keno pays $320. If you are a RANDOM player at 6 numbers, it is rather entertaining. I give my $1 tip and get a cold beer to actually sit back and enjoy what I am doing.

    At the Craps Table... it was focused and never a thought of just enjoying my play. It would cost more in one minute that I would risk on a real sucker's game for a week. And leave with money, at times. Right down to the last nickel.

    Naw... when you studied the Craps Layout. The Dice. The System. The Dice Setters. Watch all get beaten more often than winning. It was time to participate in serious discussions about Craps, Dice, Setting, Systems, Time at the Table... etc. But there is a group that cannot make up a legitimate story from personal experiences that it just cannot be true.

    This is the same at the M, Red Rock, Silverton... Craps Players with no idea how to focus on a plan, when to quit and when to hit the Table hard with winnings, after locking up a profit. They are that ignorant. Not stupid... ignorant of Craps.

    Counting cards. Dice Setting. Roulette timing the ball and wheel. All fantasy. When I watch someone, other than a Dice Chucker, play at a table setting dice, wagering like a pro... then I will eat the lettuce I pulled out of my tuna sandwich.

    To date. After seriously watching players, systems and outcomes. Keno is a lot of fun and my wife like the Video Poker machines. Relaxing if you lose. Fun if you win. But table games without discipline... try something else to piss away your time and money.

    Linaway has the Theory perfected. I would like to watch someone who really can perform better than random outcomes. The Big Casino table is no different than the small Casino table... but the crowd is bigger and the losers blend in and fade away into the Casino. It was this way in the 1930's and is the same today.
     
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  20. James Hall, Feb 3, 2019

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    A person you describe here as having no idea as to
    what numbers their dice set will produce would be a random player
    not a trained and skilled DI and as such would more likely prefer
    to bet along the lines of ,
    "MATH CORRECT"bets / low HA bets in short they would
    be MORE PRONE to choose the bet to LOSE LESS approach

    Rather than risking $27 on 6 numbers they would limit their risk
    to only two , normally the 6 & 8 thereby LOSING only $12.
    As there is NO SUCH THING AS LUCK we could have that conversation also
    at a later time however.
    I find it difficult to understand how you feel , NOT GETTING WHAT YOU WANT
    is lucky.
    In this case it might be more appropriate to refer to this
    as SIMPLY A GUESS.

    It would seem with this post , "today" you are leaning more to the
    DI won't work side ,
    Well we will wait and see what tomorrow brings.
     
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