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Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by SevenOut, Jan 31, 2019.
Stand in line for a bottle of wine ??? LOL
What was it the man said about
Gamblers accepting comps and a fish swallowing the hook??
They both feel like they won???
It really was, keep it up
Nothing like alcohol to lower somebody's IQ. I think it's about 10-15 points per ounce. 3 or 4 drinks, and anybody is a moron. "Free Drinks" I don't think so. Rarely touch the stuff, NEVER when I'm gambling.
On any game of chance... once I have my bankroll secure, with 'house chips', I can afford to take on more risk.
I tend to lock up my Bankroll with some winnings.
The winnings I can either quit, retain some or all. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it does not work.
I play a balanced System. When I put $5 on a Hard Six and Hard Eight, I will have these hard ways covered by Place Bets or Pass Line and a Place Bet. But in excess of the hard way wagers. Same with a Point 4 or 10, covering the Hardway on Point, but still cover the Hard 6 & 8. Hate to let a hard way follow no wager working.
Those who press UP while winning, may want to practice pressing DOWN after a win putting more chips on your game, up front, and removed a level after a win.
If you do the math of hitting a couple larger bets, pull off a level on wins, you maintain your Bankroll. Once your bankroll is back into your possession, any additional wins can be removed, pressed up, rearranged or what you 'feel' is needed.
Just watch the Press Up Crowd. Watch. More often they lose it all after a decent run of numbers hitting, pressing and Seven Out. They managed some small denomination chips for all the risk.
Because 'pressing up on wins' is common, does not make it right. There is a lot of poor money management at any table.
Stingy money management is not Scared Money Management.
Watch an Accountant play craps. I had my accountant come into our Gameroom Casino. Him and a friend played our Las Vegas Night tables. His friend played the Don't Pass with Odds. The Accountant the Pass Line with odds and Place Bets.
The Don't Pass with Odds player needed to buy more chips than the accountant.
Money management, at its best! This is a true story for two years. Smart money is the money that is still in your pocket. The rest... is THEIR money. Bye bye.
Gee SevenOut coming out with nice topics! I agree 100%.
Tell that to the guy from Arizona who tells everyone to splash their money on every box number from the very first roll....and press, press, press until a 7 wipes it all away. "Beginning to end" as he says.
I won't even get into the argument of his pressing the entire hardway win up again....if it happens to win again...then press that entire amount up again.
As a regular strategy for a regular gambler...These are the people who give "broke gambler" their name. Woe to the newbie who listens to this guy.
These are plays for the drunken frat boy with his college buddies on vacation who has no clue nor care what he's doing or where the money ends up....
Serious players know better.
Agree 100%..........20 second scene from HALL PASS sums it up perfectly.
I have merely said how I play. My advice has been bet what the dice are giving you.
This could be your most asinine post to date. No one has ever said
press press press until a 7 wipes it all out.
I have , on several occasions how and when I rack the profit.
Playing beginning to end does not mean a bet on every roll.
You seem to be laboring under the misconception that ,
"Pressing a bet" means never racking profits.
While playing a trend from beginning to end I will rack profits several times.
The point in time that this occurs depends entirely on the
betting strategy employed at the time . The strategy employed
is dependent on how the dice are finishing / the outcomes.
It is truly a shame you have no more grasp of the game than that.
Pressing until the SIXTH time a box number appears in a hand is a "go broke" play. 6 hits of a box number in one hand is when you stop pressing? And you say this isn't a play waiting until the end comes in the form of a 7?
LOL...shit, why not just say nine or ten hits on the 6 before pulling down?
Parlaying for SIX hits on the 6 in a hand? or ANY number waiting for six hits on that specific number before pulling it down?
Like I said...this is a drunken frat boy play with no care where his money goes.
Woe to the newbie who takes your craps advice. And you thought the group of insiders weren't helping newbies?? You strategies are pushing newbies into garage parking lots sleeping in their cars.
By all accounts you are. Press for six hits on the 6?
Yeah we know about your argument , it goes like this:
"If you hit a $5 hard 6 pull the $45 that way you have a little win
You should always play to lose less"
Therefore based on your convoluted logic in 3 hits the player
makes $150 while the player who can roll those hard ways
will come out with $5,000. This is one way to win. not just lose less.
Nope wrong again these regular strategy for a regular gambler
"ARE THE BROKE GAMBLERS"
Playing to lose less is not the same as , "BETTING TO WIN"
The message from this guy is
"You can learn to win"
"Play to win not to lose less"
Your message is
"The math says you are going to lose and
the math doesn't lie"
The conclusion to that statement when
you posted it should have been , "SO DON"T PLAY"
Good advice walk away from the table while you are up.
It is much easier to get ahead with large wins
than it is with small wins and especially with
PLAY TO WIN not to lose less.
Can one of the math guys put up the probability of rolling the same box number six times before rolling a 7?
I would assume that MOST posters KNOW to steer clear away from the Arizona guy.....with the exception on EagleEye.
Just imagine James engaged in a conversation with Grafstein, or Frank, or Dom, or Little Joe Green, Heavy, or Dice Coach. Lol
James, & Full Press engaged in Conversation:
Full Press: I have a 14-2 advantage over the Casinos. I've been using my new Controlled Random toss (lol) & killing the Casinos.
James: Well..I've been assaulting the Vaults for the better part of 50 yrs, & I use a toss....I think it's called a Park, Parr, or Pair toss. Doesn't matter what it's called...I just know it's a. Real Wow Wacker.
Only for a player who is a chronic loser and has no clue how to win.
Oh GAWD NO. On one of my betting strategy that would be when
I pull my profit and begin again.
Most assuredly not. That is simply the time to pull profit and
reevaluate the effectiveness of the toss at that point
and to determine how to proceed with that and the
other bets on the table.
I can see how you could come to that conclusion what with your
constant play , "to lose less" and of course your
basic premise that a $7 win is very exciting and time
for a round of high fives and a couple of , WOOHHOOOs. If you ever get past the idea that
playing to lose less is smart play and start playing to win you
will soon find that , "PLAYING TO WIN" is where the money is.
Continue to muddle in mediocrity if that is your bag but
you really should abstain from trying to drag everybody down to your
level simply because you refuse to learn to win'
Those efforts are really very disingenuous and serve to no acceptable end.
You reall need to quit figuring why and how much you are going to LOSE.
and figure out how and how much you can WIN
While you are at it do the math to see what the odds are
of hitting a five point fire bet twice in one day
on the same table . One of the Mesa guys did that
at Margaritaville , Las Vegas .
See results of that event on my avatar to the left.
All 4 of us were on it and all of us played it for
the dealers , they made one hell of a tip.
This after only 5 lessons.
It doesn't make a damned bit of difference what the odds are
when you hit the number the house pays the bet.
Play to win.
Yeah we would certainly hate to see people start winning .
That's what you guys were saying when I first got on this board.
Demango lead the attack with ,
"James you are going to , "F^**K" it up for everybody,
why would you want to flood the casinos with people doing what you can do??
It might be pretty interesting , they have a much better concept
of what , "IS POSSIBLE" than you guys , they know how to win
and they offer people ways that they too could win.
I have had many conversations with people who actually understand
the possibilities of the game and know that winning is more than possible.
Those conversations are a lot more interesting than what you guys offer ,
Your , "Nobody ain't never going to win crap".
And just to let you know I would love to talk to any of them.
Atr least they undrstand the game.
Find that difficult do ya . Learn a bit then pass judgement
but for gawd sake COMMIT to something LEARN TO WIN OR give it up.
but do Commit one way or the other, would ya???
All you guys being pissed off at me because I win and you can't
is just silly
What GAWD NO...??
You admitted to it in your post. Two times. You are essentially pressing the entire amount....less the $6 bucks you are getting back by the sixth hit.
What are you an , "INNUMERATE" ?
you figure it.