RDI: The ridiculous art of "Reverse Dice Influence"

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  1. driglaz, May 16, 2015

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    Getting te edge at craps by sharpshooter would be a
    There is more than one book on the subject matter, i recommend reading several of them and putting the best parts of each together into what will work in a casino for you. Also read the books carefully and understand and interpret what the are saying, including time to learn, don't let the message boards anti-di believers fool you into thinking this is a few weeks or months worth of work or it is impossible- this it takes the average person years of work to acquire the skills YURI mentions. Your own failure to succeed with DI does not make it non-existent or mean it is impossible. I am sick and tired of the bullshit people posting on these boards...
     
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  2. driglaz, May 16, 2015

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    First book on modern dice control. This 1998 original classic was written by the father of modern dice control, Yuri Kononenko, 4 years before other books on dice control including Sharpshooter-Scoblete material. The book teaches how to control the perfect dice on casino dice tables to change the odds in favor of a player and come out a winner in a long run. Dice control makes craps a game of skill. The book is written for beginners and experienced players. Written with unsurpassed clarity, amazing depth of thought and attention to a minute detail this fundamental 161 pages work includes 29 chapters, 54 photographs, 31 drawings, 24 tables and one diagram. Learn theory, 2 methods and 2 elements of dice control and its application to the game of craps. Learn theory of controlled throw including 2 basic principles and 8 characteristics. Learn the art of controlled throwing including 3 stages of throwing; 7 professional dice grips; 3 correct dice pick-ups; 2 ways of throwing; 2 correct body stances; correct hip, upper body, shoulder, elbow, thumb, finger and wrist movements for controlled throwing. Learn coordination of all movements and execution of controlled throw. Learn correct training exercises for dice grips, dice pick-ups, coordination of all movements and 8 characteristics of controlled throw. Learn theory of dice arrangements including 6 correct dice sets for dice control. Learn how to combine dice pick-ups and dice arrangements and set the dice in! 1 second. Learn correct betting for dice control including 16 advantageous for a player bets. Learn expected long-run win, likely win and a risk. Learn connection between correct bet size and risk. More details in the website. Learn dice control troubleshooting including 8 possible problems and ways to correct them instantly and much much more....

    http://www.amazon.com/Dice-Control-Casino-Craps-Kononenko/dp/096184048X
     
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  3. betwthelines, May 16, 2015

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    Driglaz, this is a genuine question for you...i am genuinely curious as to why you keep repeating over and over and over and over and over again that there are DI skeptics that are saying the skill is "impossible" Who is saying this?...o, i suppose in the history of on-line craps forums it may have been said a time or 2 but i have never seen it accused of being UNQUALIFIED "impossible" (qualified, yes, i myself and many others, for example, believe it to be "nearly" impossible)...

    ...further, anyone saying it is "impossible" is not being rational and (MY OPINION) most DI skeptics are, for the most part (qualifier alert! lol), rational, but DI skeptic or not, characterizing it as "impossible" is not rational...i would like you to cite ONE EXAMPLE of someone saying it is "impossible" (without qualifications or obvious hyperbole)...again this is a genuine request of you, devoid of any malice or agendas...


    perhaps if you avoided straw men such as critics are saying it is "impossible", IOW less bullshit in, there might be less bullshit out...as for your other assertions, we patiently await replicable evidence of their manifestations...tom "home runs are often boring" p
     
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  4. Morgue, May 16, 2015

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    I think we all are...
    However, we all have our own interpretations of what "bullshit" is. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. driglaz, May 16, 2015

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    i dont have time to review old posts, you know who the usual suspects are...

    here is one post
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/di-is-real-and-this-is-why.8494/

    here is another
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/rolling-averages.3438/

    here is one more
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/the-trouble-with-dice-influencing.4231/



    some here do imply it is impossible.....read some threads....
     
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  6. betwthelines, May 16, 2015

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    Driglaz, thank you for your reply!

    Yes, i know you didn't have time to--nor would i expect you to- go through it all, but since you did provide the links and since i was the one that threw down the gauntlet, i felt obligated to read every post in the links...I was able to stop when i got to basic 7's above...And as you can see, he does much more than just IMPLY impossibility but asserts it outright!!!. And while it may be inexpedient to say that he is "wrong", he is most certainly excessive, floundering, illogical and, i repeat, not rational in his maladroit assertion! Oh, f*ck it: he is wrong!...JUST ABOUT ANYTHING IS "possible"...

    As i said, my inquiry to you was an honest and genuine one. I STAND CORRECTED AND WILL NEVER AGAIN -this wasn't the first time lol- BUG YOU ABOUT THIS basically semantic point...

    thanks again for your time and responsiveness...tom "home runs are often boring" p
    -g. geist: there you go again! allus hedging, allus qualifying...
    --tom p: huh?
    ---g. geist: "just about" anything...ok, wise guy, what IS impossible then??
    ----tom p:
    -----g. geist:
    ------tom p: it's impossible that 2+2 is anything but 4
    -------g. geist:
    --------tom p:
    ---------g. geist:
    ----------tom p: 2+2=4...even God cant change it
    -----------g. geist: ohhhhh...so we're Mr Philosopher now?
    ------------tom p: ok, bozo...you're the one who asked.
     
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  7. KokomoJoe4, May 17, 2015

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    Calm down geist, and tell your associate to read Orwell's 1984.
     
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  8. betwthelines, May 17, 2015

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    you know, i read it as a youth...might not be a bad idea to revisit it...tom "home runs are often boring" p
     
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  9. The Midnight Skulker, May 19, 2015

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    In a trinary number system 2+2=11.

    -------m skulk: There's one in every crowd.
     
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  10. Onautopilot, May 19, 2015

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    How does that work? I probably do it by accident sometimes, since I do almost all the math in my head that I use.
     
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  11. DeMango, May 19, 2015

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    3=1 so you count 1,2,10,11,12,20,21,22,100!
    quick what would 10,000 be in decimal?
     
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  12. Onautopilot, May 19, 2015

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    You lost me right after 3 = 1, and I'm pretty good at, "what's the next number in the sequence.". :)
     
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  13. The Midnight Skulker, May 19, 2015

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    81, though I will not defend that answer to the death since I ran out of fingers and toes even after borrowing my wife's.
    In the decimal (base 10) number system which we use almost exclusively each digit is worth 10 times the value of the digit on its immediate right. 81 could therefore be written as (8*10^1)+(1*10^0). Similarly 11 in trinary could be written as (1*3^1)+1*(3^0).

    Perhaps now you can understand the observation Mason made in The Before Time. "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't." As a (semi-)retired computer geek I became quite familiar with binary (base 2), octal (base 8), and hexadecimal (base 16) number systems and notations. Normal people maybe not so much. ;)
     
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  14. Onautopilot, May 19, 2015

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    O.K., and I really miss Mason, and yes, I did not understand that quote from him that you mention here, now I almost do. :)
     
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  15. basicstrategy777, May 20, 2015

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    People that don't take hard position's are pussy's and are afraid to be called out.

    Life starts when you go beyond your comfort zone, whether at the craps table or you playing with words.....

    So tell me......you think DI is possible ?......do you have it in you to say....YES or NO.......common' say it.

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  16. betwthelines, May 20, 2015

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    YES. OF COURSE DI IS POSSIBLE!! That's what i have been saying!! To say that it is "impossible" is not rational...wtf, do i need to say it 500 times to qualify for "having it in me"??

    Where you might be confused is that this does NOT say that one "believes in" DI (i don't)...or think that it has ever been done effectively (i don't)...or think that it ever will be done effectively (i don't)...but possible? of course it is possible...extraterrestrial aliens on earth is possible...tom "home runs are often boring" p
     
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  17. basicstrategy777, May 21, 2015

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    BTL.......it's about as possible as pouring a pound of salt and a pound of pepper in a clear plastic container.......shaking it up real good and having all the salt on the top layer and all the pepper on the bottom.

    Yeah....it's possible.

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  18. Morgue, May 21, 2015

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    DI enthusiasts just visualised that with ground pepper and large sea salt crystals. :p
     
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  19. Onautopilot, May 21, 2015

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    Why does it need to be a clear container? Would you not get the same results if it were a non "clear" container? DI's embrace their results without having to see them! :)
     
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  20. basicstrategy777, May 21, 2015

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    Ya know onautopilot, I kinda like you, BUT, you have residue on you from that old, old craps board, where everybody was a friggin' lawyer in being sooo right in how they worded things. I know you know what I'm talkin' about.

    We can all slice and dice what someone says but I don't think it is necessary.......simple and general is best, IMHO.

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