RDI: The ridiculous art of "Reverse Dice Influence"

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  1. Morgue, May 6, 2015

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    Let me preface this thread by stating that I'm a DI skeptic. However, I'll credit myself as being the inventor of RDI. (As silly as the concept may be).

    It's basically the opposite of DI.

    DI: set the top face to a number you wish to land on and skilfully toss to try to get that number.

    RDI: set the top face to a number you don't want....
    ...then throw like a spastic, hoping that the number on top doesn't show.

    Revolutionary! Don't you think? ;)
     
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  2. tabletop123, May 6, 2015

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    Morgue, I envision Seminars, After Glow Fees, books, & "Live" Sessions with YOU as the ALMIGHTY Instructor. Ok Guys/Gals, hurry up & Book your Spot. The Classes are Already Half Full with only 2 Weeks left. All Alumni receives a Complimentary(Actually Your "After Glow" fee pays for it) Dinner & A free Photo Session with Your Favorite Instructor....... " Grave Yard Shift Morgue". LOL.
     
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  3. The Comeback Kid, May 6, 2015

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    I do believe, Herr Professor, you may be on to something.
    I like the concept so much I am giving it a more appropriate name - "Morging"

    If you don't try new ideas, you'll never know how great they might be.
    Can I get an amen?
     
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  4. Onautopilot, May 6, 2015

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    Amen.
     
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  5. DeMango, May 6, 2015

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    Been there done that. Use the All 7's set and works extremely well when the DP outnumbers the PFH. Read the Wong book, you are 10 years too late.

    It seems most of you post by slamming shit against the wall and hoping it sticks. I do the best I can scraping it off, but it is too much for me. Need more Mully and Goatcabin.
     
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  6. Onautopilot, May 6, 2015

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    Interesting observation, and it does sound like you have a shitty job of it....but somebody has to do it, might as well be you!
     
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  7. Morgue, May 6, 2015

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    You missed the point entirely.

    RDI is not shooting for a seven. It's having a number you DON'T want face up and then purposefully throwing "unskilfully" (perhaps 'off axis' maybe) in the hopes it doesn't land that way.
     
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  8. $nakeEye$, May 6, 2015

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    Sorry Guys -

    THAT particular concept is possibly ' patented ' -

    However - if NOT - IS protected by NDA's ( Non-Disclosure Agreements ) among the concerned parties -

    Concerned Parties -

    WHO are THEY -

    Well there are 2 parties -

    Those who TAKE YOUR Hard Earned $ with the promise of Endless $ -

    IF YOU can " Perfect MY Idiotic / Unorthodox / Asinine Throw " -

    NOW - Bear in Mind - UNLIKE conventional DI / DC techniques -

    Which are / were well documented -

    THERE will be NO VIDEOS of these rocket science / ass-hole puckering tosses -

    WHY - WOULD THAT BE ??????????????????????????? -

    BECAUSE - WHEN the suckers who bought into the BullShit initially -

    WILL BE SOLD on ' Follow-Up / New found Info " as to WHY this BS NEVER worked initially !

    OR -

    THEY will TELL YOU -

    YOU did NOT " perform the BS Toss correctly " -

    YOU NEED to ' BE RE-SCHOOLED ' - ' RE-TRAINED ' OR - some other lame excuse -

    WHEN - in the Final Analysis -

    It IS THIER technique which is flawed - and - NOT your execution of their FLAWED technique -

    NOTHING WORKS ALL of the time !

    One needs to know when to play " Right Side " and when to " Play Wrong / Dark Side " AND Vice-Versa !

    $...eE..$
     
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  9. The Midnight Skulker, May 7, 2015

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    Hallelujah. I mean, yeah. Um, what was it you asked for?
     
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  10. far out, May 14, 2015

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    I would also like to try Morge's method the next time I go to the tables. The last time during my roll to make a couple points , I rolled two or three 11's and never bet on them. The dealers even remarked about it. Thoughts?...far out
     
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  11. Morgue, May 14, 2015

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    My thoughts? Hmmm...

    I think the dealers are trying to goad you into making high HE bets. Not sure whether that's a specific instruction from management. Perhaps a current/former dealer can enlighten us. Another reason may be they genuinely want you to hit a high payout bet. With that many chips coming your way, you'd probably be inclined to throw some to the crew. (Especially if the payout was due to a suggested bet from them.)

    I'm not too sure how RDI could assist in producing an eleven though. Do you know something I don't?

    Best of luck at the tables. Let me know if RDI improves your throwing.

    Cheers!
     
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  12. DeMango, May 14, 2015

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    No, you missed the point entirely. By setting sevens on all 4 primary faces and then throwing in a way where PFH's are very rare, you have almost eliminated 4 out of 6 sevens. That, as SE pointed out, is the basis, of a throw/strategy of a dice tossing group. You didn't invent anything, you just threw some feces on the wall. (Scrape, scrape)
     
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  13. Morgue, May 14, 2015

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    Ha!

    You still don't get it. ANY of it.

    1) I'm not setting "all sevens". Just one of them face up.
    2) the objective is not to throw skilfully. In fact, it's entirely the opposite.

    AND

    3)

    .... Most important of all, this thread is almost entirely satirical. With the main purpose to point out how "RIDICULOUS" (it's in the title of the thread FFS :p ) some people think dice influencing is.

    Thank you for playing along. ;)

    Originally when I put this thread up, I thought straight away there'd be a few die hard DI players who would scoff at the notion of RDI, telling me how stupid the concept is.

    It was a set up, a carefully placed net to entrap DI enthusiasts to see things from a non believers point of view.

    I must applaud the ones that didn't jump in waving their fingers. However there's always some that just don't see the trees for the forest.

    I wish I could "like" my own post.
    *pats self on back*
     
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  14. driglaz, May 14, 2015

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    If influencing the dice is so ridiculous then...
    • why is it such a heated topic?
    • Why are some convinced they have acquired the ability?
    • Why is there so much debate?
    • Why have industries been created around it?
    • Why are casinos allegedly using "unbalanced" dice?
    • Why do stickmen and some dealers give people "heat"?
    • Why do some people have consistently average longer rolls than others?
    Can I get an amen?
     
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  15. Morgue, May 14, 2015

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    Here are my answers/opinions to your dot points (in red):
    • why is it such a heated topic?
    • Same reason religion and politics is a hot topic. Two sides with completely opposite views.
    • Why are some convinced they have acquired the ability?
    • You'd have to ask them. My guess is they're focusing on the good results and not paying much attention to the bad ones. Or making excuses when things go badly.
    • Why have industries been created around it?
    • Simple. There's a market for it. Just like astrology, need I say more? In short....money
    • Why are casinos allegedly using "unbalanced" dice?
    • "Allegedly" is a keyword there. I don't think it would be widespread. If they are, it's to increase profits. Again, in short.....money
    • Why do stickmen and some dealers give people "heat"?
    • I've never experienced this. If players are excessively slowing down the game by fidgeting with the dice, it's costing the house. I'm pretty sure most heat is for short rolls or the like.
    • Why do some people have consistently average longer rolls than others?
    • I don't believe they do. Sometimes people see what they want to see.
    Can I get an amen?
    No.
     
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  16. KokomoJoe4, May 14, 2015

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    Before reading Morgue's answers, here are mine. I would guess many of our replies are similar.

    --True/False topics of debate usually are this way

    -- Because they want to believe

    -- There really is not but for on craps boards

    -- $ $ $

    -- $ $ $

    -- for not following established rule protocol

    -- Because they are lucky or they are better shooters, especially if these rolls are producing numbers that players are sitting on.
     
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  17. Morgue, May 14, 2015

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    Sure you didn't read them? Thu are near identical haha
     
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  18. DeMango, May 14, 2015

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    Hey Einstein: If you set seven on top, what's on the bottom?
     
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  19. KokomoJoe4, May 14, 2015

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    mc^2 / 7.
     
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  20. TDVegas, May 14, 2015

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    Yep. I've heard about it. Read about it. Never seen it though. If there is grief, I suspect you are right...it's for reasons having nothing to do with DI and just people doing things they aren't supposed to be doing (delays, short roll, army cot roll)

    I get the biggest chuckle out of "the suits were really bringing the heat".....sounds like an old time gangster movie.
     
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