Question about $3 tables?

Discussion in 'Bankroll Management' started by medicman, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. Lifeisacrapshoot, Nov 26, 2012

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    I really enjoy the $3.00 Craps tables at one of my favorite casinos, Jerry's Nugget Casino in North Las Vegas. My friend who lives in NLV always takes me there as part of my gaming ritual whenever I'm visiting Vegas. They always have $3.00 minimums, 24/7. I really get a kick out of the dealers. Very helpful. Also, I love the $1.00 minimum Roulette tables. I rarely play Roulette, but when I do, I have a blast at Jerry's Nugget. They have a decent 24 hour diner with good desserts. This is a very old school type of casino with a lot of locals, which I love. People are down to earth and lots of great conversation at the bar. It's not fancy, but I love the feel of yester year Vegas.
     
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  2. SevenOut, Nov 26, 2012

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    Ah... the disappearing $3 tables. Well what about the Binion's Horseshoe $1 table days, which were not too long ago.

    I was making more money off the 25 cent brown chips and selling them at my shop for $5 each to collectors! Now those were good odds for a 25 cent chip, considering that the SAME Paulson and Sons chips were costing me 35 cents each for my Roulette table's off colors! (Roulette players know what an "off color chip" is, but it might be a new term to a Craps player. (Craps tables do not use metal slugs for $1 as they would tear up the table's cloth, but use blue or white $1, red $5 chip, green $25 chip, etc. Roulette uses the SAME chips but "weird" colors, so someone could NOT pocket some Roulette 25 cent buy in chip and try to slip them onto a Craps table stack to pass as a higher value chip...) The Craps table dealer would want to press me up to even $1 chips and would then notice... there were no brown 25 cent chips left in my rack. This is the only time I played the bare minimum on a Craps Table. It has been too long ago to recall if I came out ahead playing those longer games with minimum chips, but you had to work payouts so there were not in round $1 payouts. They wanted you to play the 25 cent chips on the table and then press you up, but I told my dealer just to stack them on the apron and I will take them. (Yes, I know that not all Casinos use the clay chips today, but many have gone to the Chipco plastics that have prettier designs. The Hat & Cane chip is the clay Paulson Chip.) Some times they kept a stack of 50 cent pieces to cut down on the chips walking off the table... those lousy collectors, can you imagine. Ha

    Downtown was the place to find the $1 and $2 tables. It was not unusual to find the hotel guests from the Strip playing their standard game with $25 Pass Line bets and all of the action they wanted to cover on the table... but this was considered a Locals Casino. Meaning, the local players flocked to Downtown Casinos to stay OFF of the Strip with higher minimums. The risk you take with this crowd... If they do not like your play, your taking too much time it will cause a riot with name calling and telling you to get on with it. I do not think that part has changed a bit, so if you can get downtown to play Craps at the Horseshoe or a smaller Casino that has room for a Craps table, try it.

    If you play late, I think the bus leaves Downtown at midnight for the last run. The wife and I would be sitting on the bench and being offered a drink out of the bottle in a paper sack, unknown now, drinking buddy. Better have EXACT change which was probably around 85 cents, but worth it. That is a very long walk back to the Strip.

    I know, off topic. There was a time when you could toss out an "Out of Casino" chip, a valid chip from a local Casino, and ask the Boxman if he would accept it onto the table. One way to get those loose chips you forgot you had in your pocket. I never was turned down. If you WON, the chip came back. If you lost, it was pulled out and dropped into the cash box drop with the paper currency buy ins. The collectors of chips would go to the Cashier Windows at the small Casino and ask to see what Out of Casino chips they had, in the event some were collectable. These collectors could make good money when a local would find some "antique" chips in a drawer, throw them onto the table, lose and now these chips became a bit of a hassle for the small local Casino to turn them into cash at face value.
     
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  3. goatcabin, Jan 11, 2013

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    I went to Reno in October 2010 and found these conditions:

    Harrah's $5 min, 3, 4, 5X odds, no triple on Field, until 5:30 PM, then up to $10 min.

    Cal Neva $3 min, 3, 4, 5X odds. Early on, just two dealers were working; later, a full crew. I didn't make place bets, so I don't know what the deal was on a $3 place 6 or 8. I don't think they had any 50-cent checks, so you probably needed to bet $6 to get the correct payout.

    Silver Legacy $5, 3, 4, 5X odds

    Sands -- $5 minimum, 10X odds. When we got there, there was just one dealer. They had an insert with rubber pyramids that cut off the table, so one dealer could handle everything. We handled our own prop bets! Later on, some more people showed up, and they removed the insert and got another dealer.

    Some casinos I used to play at were closed. This was the first time I ever saw not-a-full crew working a table, but Reno was quite depressed at that time.

    For medicman's wife:

    The easiest way to stay in the game is to bet the pass line at the minimum level, $5 or $3 if you can find it. In addition to the low bet amount, this has the lowest variance you can get without hedging. It's not particularly exciting, but she can be in the game and watch what all the other players are doing. Even $100 is 20 (or 33) times the bet. Plus, she can roll the dice when they come around. Another relatively cheap way to play is the Field, but only if they pay Triple 12 (the HA is twice as high with only double 2 and 12). The problem with the Field is that you bet every roll, so you lose faster if you're losing. Of course, you don't have to bet every roll. You said she didn't want to deal with odds yet, so if she's doing well she could place the 6 or 8 after the comeout, but some newbies don't like to make dealer-controlled bets.
    Cheers,
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  4. rudeboy99, Feb 4, 2013

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    Yeah, our games @ the 'Neva are $3, 24/7...UNLESS! it's a big weekend OR there's such heavy action that it warrants a small bump.
     
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  5. goatcabin, Feb 4, 2013

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    www.Powercraps.net

    Still "Under Construction".

    Any ETA? What is it going to be?
    Cheers,
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  6. rudeboy99, Feb 5, 2013

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    Well, my IT guy is in or headed for prison. The site is just gonna be a retail deal to sell a craps book I wrote a couple of years ago, as well as some links to some online casinos...I'm sorta layin' low 'til I can get a better handle on the legality as a whole. But that's basically the plan except I am gonna include some content to try to make it less of a hassle for brand new players. All the smart money casino bosses are always harping that craps is a dying game, and to a certain extant they're right, at least in this area, and I'd like to do my bit to try to reverse that trend.
     
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  7. Lifeisacrapshoot, Feb 6, 2013

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    A dying game?? Craps? Oh nooo, say it ain't so!
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  8. rudeboy99, Feb 6, 2013

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    I meant in Nevada..I tell it true...every joint running 25 years ago that's still in business today, ran DOUBLE the number of crap games we currently see in this state now. Granted, there are scads of newish casinos down Vegas way, and all the newer gaming markets DO attempt to cultivate newbies to the game, somewhat.or they SHOULD! But in the current gambling semi ghost town (Reno), where I hang my hat, the play has fallen off tremendously. Where in the bigger, local clubs, you would find six or eight dice tables in a craps "pit", completely separate from the rest of the table games, now you might find two, and they won't be goin' all the time. The sad thing for me is that hardly any of the old school rounders that I turned out in this business with, or the old dinosaurs that taught US ever thought the good times would ever end in this area. OOPS! lol...Myself, I'm bull-headed enough to see it through 'til I retire...or maybe I'm sorta slow...I guess what I'm trying to say is that I believe in giving rookie players a lot of slack if they are sincerely interested in learning the game...but if some asshole newbie thinks I'm his babysitter and doesn't take the game seriously, just thinks it'd be fun to slap my slinky, well, they don't last too long and generally learn that they are better Keno players after all.
     
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  9. goatcabin, Feb 6, 2013

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    I have to agree; I was pretty surprised at the big difference in the number of craps games going, and also the short crews, the last time I was there. Too bad.
    Cheers,
    Alan Shank
     
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  10. rudeboy99, May 13, 2013

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    There's still a couple of $1 games in the area, both in Sparks. Western Village and Rail City both have dollar games 24/7 if I'm not mistaken.
     
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  11. SevenOut, Jul 22, 2013

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    For new player action, the Casino loves the under $5 minimum Craps Tables. Only the lower overhead Casinos can pull this off. The House Advantage is better for the table, when you are being paid incorrect odds. I do not even know if they still have some 50 cent pieces and 25 cent chips on the tables any longer, Downtown.

    The experienced players know how to work around the higher HA disadvantage, but new players are still trying to get a handle on just getting the bets out and working and have not developed this ability to figure out the math in real time play.

    When I learned to play, it was better to begin with $5 minimums as everything works out easier and no future confusion when going from the $1 to $4 range. It also is to the Casino's advantage for many small bets played over a longer period of time to increase their benefit. You are buying an education on table procedure and not having to spend a lot of time calculating correct odds bets... but you have to start somewhere and it may as well be on a low bet table. Good luck. Just enjoy the experience and then when ready, go to $5.
     
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  12. one man wolf pack, Jul 22, 2013

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    Take a day trip to the hoover dam. On the way there is The Hacienda. They offer 1$ craps on a short table. ANd most times its 1 dealer with half the table shut down with a divider.

    I had one of my best rolls ever there setting the 3 v dice set. You are only throwing it like 2 and a half feet.
     
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  13. johnny1784, Aug 20, 2013

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    Atlantis and Circus Circus with $3 tables. There is a $1 table in Sparks - Western Village Inn & Casino.
     
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  14. rudeboy99, Sep 12, 2013

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    :cheese: Goatcabin is right on the mark per current conditions in Reno...at the Cal/Neva we DO have .50 coins on the game to pay the proper amounts on lower betting levels. Also there is another $1 game in Sparks @ a small place called Rail City. At least it was $1 when they opened up craps initially.
     
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  15. Irishsailor82, Oct 22, 2013

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    It has been 2 years since I have been down to Reno, but I did find a $3 game at Circus Circus. I stayed at the Silver Legacy so it was very convenient to hop between the Legacy, Circus Circus, and the Eldorado. I am a low bankroll player who doesn't get to play often. That means I study for about a month prior to any trip and seek out the cheapest table possible. This helps to get my mental game sharp, and minimize the sting to my bankroll for being rusty. I am curious to know why nobody has suggested Circus Circus on here. I had a very enjoyable experience there my last time in Reno. I had a couple of friends with me who had never played and the dealers were very accommodating. I also told my friends to tip "The Boys" about every 3rd win though. We ALL came out ahead after several hours of entertainment each session for several days. Did we just catch an off chance good experience? Or just a hidden gem? Either way it was a $3 game to kickstart the bankroll and then you end up placing $5 & $10 bets with the houses money after a couple of takes! Enjoy the game and keep em rollin!
     
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  16. azbroncfan, Jan 25, 2015

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    Casino Royal is 5 buck min now and I noticed it over at least the last year. I do remember 3 dollar table there though.
     
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  17. goatcabin, Jan 29, 2015

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    Who is "we" -- which casino? Last time I was in Reno, I remember playing at a $3 table, but I can't remember where. Seems to me the Sands had 10x odds, too. When the table was slow, they cut off one end of the table and used two dealers, one of them working the stick.
     
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  18. far out, Jan 31, 2015

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    For medicman, was in vegas last month at the Fremont hotel and casino on fremont street. They had a 3 dollar crap table all the time but only allowed double odds on the pass line. However you could place 5 or higher place bet on the place bets like normal and they paid reg rates 9/5 7/5 7/6 etc. was hard to get on the table all the time though. FYI from ...far out
     
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  19. rudeboy99, Feb 3, 2015

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    For your gambling pleasure I'm currently appearing @ Club Cal/Neva. I've worked quite a few "phat" jobs here, but I gotta admit, the ol' 'Neva is pretty much a shit-hole...but "they" stay off the crews asses, and on my shift pretty much let us run our own game. As I'm winding down my career, it's worth a lot to me not to have a floorboss constantly humpin' my leg and runnin' roughshod over the players as well.:cool::cool:
     
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  20. goatcabin, Feb 3, 2015

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    I played at the Cal/Neva last time I was in Reno. Did well, as I recall.
     
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