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Discussion in 'Beginner Zone' started by BuckShot, Mar 10, 2018.
Define "small" craps table.
This is Barney,
Mr. VD...the LID use to play on small table or tub of the craps when he was using the time shifting devices a couple of years ago in attempt to verify Opie's claim of a 99% win rate at the craps. Here's picture I took of such craps play on the tub....however these most greatest personages gave the LID much heat for being a craps DI and tossed him out of saloon...Although they did have many chickys at the establishment.
Thank you very much
Opens when there is low/no crapsters. Hope for 3-4 AM
I played a few tubs and like them. It took me awhile to adjust to the shorter distance. The back wall is so close it’s like playing with long arms. A slow easy toss worked well for me. Those I played had only one employee functioning as both stick and box and they opened after closing the regular tables in the wee hours.
Long time ago I played at a single dealer bath tub, er, craps table and didn't care for it. Just didn't feel right -- in large part because I wasn't used to the really compacted space. Similar type of awkwardness to shooting 20' bank shots on an old school half-oval backboard after playing for years on courts where the basketball goals had the large rectangular backboards.
I doubt i will stay that late at night to be able to play on it. Looks interesting and dont care much for that casino.
Early bird gets the empty (hopefully) craps table (tub)
Is this better?
4&10 $15 each compared to the $30 on the 6 or 8 power press.
First off you have 6 ways to get a hit compared to 5 plus you get paid nearly double.Three hits and you are at a $100 not too bad! Comments?
no it's not recommended... they don't come in enough. Just yesterday at the casino I was betting the powerpress 30 on the 10 as mentioned from another member.
started with buy30 then dropped 3 chips to buy90 followed by a next win going to 250... It is a tough battle... even though each win would pay me 500 chips, it's not consistent as compared to betting the 6 & 8.
I've also created a wincraps script for the POWER PRESS 4&10 and tested it... every simulation resulted in -amount.
You are wrong the combination of both 4&10 will hit more than a solitary 6 or 8.This is a fact.
sorry my friend... I can send you the script and you can run as many rolls on it as you like... every simulation I ran on it resulted bad bet.
Trust me I thought the same way and that's why I created the script. I would love to hit continuous $500 wins from 4-10 unfortunately the 6 & 8 show much more consistency.
A single 6 or 8 will never out hit the combination of the 4&10. Six chances out of 36 compared to 5 . Game over
So the 7 coming out is equal to a 4 or 10 hitting.A better situation
Many occasions I will see 6 or 8 get rolled 3-4 times per shooter...
anyway. here is a demo of the power press 4 & 10 strategy.
I've proved this many times in both Wincraps simulations and also my little card board box craps setup and also at the casino.
Dude! it's a great idea knowing the payouts are 2 to 1 on the 4 & 10 but there are 14 shooters at the craps table and at least 4-5 of them will not even roll a single 4 or 10.
this is not consistent even though some days you can cash in a cool $1000 in profits if not more. but it's not gonna happen every day....
The six & eight show more consistency for the long term play and also profits and also giving me 10 chances to show vs. 6 chances for a seven. I would definitely consider betting the 4 & 10 when the DI's rolling outside numbers have the dice. that betters the probabilities by at least 50%
Where is DeMango when you need him?
Dave think about it for a second...
1) 4 can be rolled 3 ways and pays 2:1
2) 10 can be rolled 3 ways and pays 2:1
3) 7 can be rolled 6 ways
sounds pretty fair.
I've played many sessions of craps since 1996 and i've also played many different ways including hedging, martingale, doey/dont's... paired numbering strategies and more.
Unless you use a dice set to roll for those specific numbers, you can never win with 4 & 10
wave patterns far to far fetched and not consistent.
what may work for the long term is to incorporate a reverse martingale 2,4,8,16,32 and hope for one single win giving you a profit.
Dave if you like I can run many simulations on the four/ten using any of your requested styles.
Who knows maybe can come up with something that works very well with more consistency.
I am talking about just random shooters not a DI' setting for 6&8' s.
In either case ling roll hands are few so you would be fighting an uphill batyle usually with either approach.
The pressed amount after 3 hits depends upon whether you're assuming 3 hits total (e.g., split 2 & 1 between the 4 & 10) or 3 hits on the same number (e.g., the 4 is hit 3x, the 10 is not hit).
Of course they are split.