Ok, how bad did I miss it, and how would you have handled it?

Discussion in 'Beginner Zone' started by cmonhard8, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. wonko33, Mar 27, 2018

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    no you don't win on every 2 occurrences, if your come bet is on the 9, when it is rolled again your new come bet move to the 9 and you collect the old one... TADA magic . Let me tell you if you are hitting a lot of numbers you will just keep those come bets going, just like you press your place bets.
     
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  2. DeMango, Mar 27, 2018

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    What you are saying is beyond the intellect of the Mesa crew!
     
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  3. James Hall, Mar 27, 2018

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    Nope , totally different , it's a contract bet and comes with all the disadvantages , "TADTA"
     
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  4. James Hall, Mar 27, 2018

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    More , "CHICKEY POOP" from , "POOF"
     
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  5. James Hall, Mar 27, 2018

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    I think it was Demango the , "POOF" who said the , "COME BET" SUCKS
    any thoughts??
     
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  6. James Hall, Mar 27, 2018

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    You misspelled beneath in your post , beneath is spelled B-E-N-E=A-T-H
    NOT , B-E-Y-O-N-D-
     
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  7. wonko33, Mar 27, 2018

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    so that's what people who come to Mesa can expect
    - information that is not supported by any facts, just the guru's preference. All the "pro" of the guru's opinions explained at length but none of the "cons" mentioned. (*whisper* the guru gets upset if you disagree)
    - stories to amaze the children
    - pretty dice spinning together through the air before they hit the backwall and scatter to the winds
    - I think the only real benefit is the ride to the airport.
     
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  8. DeMango, Mar 27, 2018

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    I think he will kick in a meal, so not a total waste of time!
     
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  9. James Hall, Mar 27, 2018

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    Learning how winners win is never a waste of time , always time well spent
     
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  10. Edward-ky, Mar 28, 2018

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    That would not be a totally accurate statement. If one employs a continous come bet strategy then it really only would apply on the initial number being rolled. For example after point established come bet placed and roll of 8. Come bet travels odds are placed. Another come bet placed and next roll 8. Dealer goes off and on for the 8. Come bet still there and come bet on 8 still there. Next roll is a 8. Not saying continuous come is a good strategy. Then you have people who place across and then use come bet. They get paid on every box number rolled. So a blanket statement like yours is only true if 1 come bet is placed and a decision is waited on before placing another come bet. Or if multiple come bets are used and no repeating numbers.
     
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  11. TDVegas, Mar 28, 2018

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    It's a ridiculous argument against the come bet. To collect on a come bet the number must hit once. An initial come bet is betting on a 7-11 winner...2-3-12 loser. Nothing else. It's does not have to "hit a box number twice to win"...because the first time the box number rolls, you aren't betting that number...you are betting on the 7-11 to win.

    This is the equivalent of a bettor who has placed the 5-6-8-9 and sees a couple 4's rolling so he decides to add a bet to the 4---"take what the dice and table are giving." Is he saying this is a bad bet because "the 4 must hit 3 times for me to win once"?? He doesn't care at this point what has rolled in the past because that's over and he wasn't betting it anyway. He wants the 4 to roll once...when he has put a bet on it.

    This "the come bet is a bad bet because the number has to hit twice to win" was a statement conjured up by the short bus people trying to make a false argument why "the come bet sucks."

    Clueless.
     
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  12. The Midnight Skulker, Mar 28, 2018

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    Another flaw, on which Edward-ky touched, is that the "number must hit twice" argument treats a place bet as a single bet regardless of how many times the number it is on hits. While it is true that place bets are left up by default when they win, that bet has been resolved and the player is in fact making a new bet.
     
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  13. James Hall, Mar 28, 2018

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    You may argue in defense of the come bet anyway you wish , it still , "SUCKS" by comparison It's a contract bet
    they lock you in , the come bet is like , a "FATAL FUNNEL"
    and that is exactly why the casino feels they have to , "BRIBE" players to make it
    It's a play not to lose bet.
     
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  14. James Hall, Mar 28, 2018

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    These arguments you insist on instigating turn out to be a , "WATERLOO" for you , you seem to
    always be on the wrong side , I can't tell if you just like to argue , or you just
    really don't know any better
     
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  15. Edward-ky, Mar 28, 2018

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    Anyone with a brain doesnt want to win a come bet on a 7 unless you like PSO.
     
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  16. TDVegas, Mar 28, 2018

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    Of course not...but if it's going to roll, tis better on a come bet than...oh I don't know, after betting all across or after having all your come bet numbers working.

    The come bet is great insurance if there are early 7 outs. I've been playing enough and seeing enough to see place bettors wiped out and gone, off the table with early 7 outs while the come bettor still has his gun powder for when it turns.

    It's a personal decision. I've seen both place and come bets work to the players advantage.

    Anyone suggesting the come bet is a bad bet...knows very little about the game of craps, IMO. James Hall doesn't like it. Even if I never played craps...if he doesn't like the bet, I know it's a good bet.

    My main point in responding to this thread was simply to point out the nonsense of "you have to roll the number twice to win a come bet".
     
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  17. Freddyy, Mar 29, 2018

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    Say you are on 6&8, and 5 or 9 come up twice. Why not use your next win on 6&8 for a spread on 5&9...it can save you nightmares.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Mar 29, 2018

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    You can. You can also add it back to the 6 -8. There is no right or wrong play here. As the saying goes...you bets your money and let the dice fall.

    I think the people who bet more numbers have that "nightmare" sensation when they are seeing numbers hit that they are not on and it aggravates them. I get it. I understand the feeling.

    I tend to max out numbers covered to three. I've done four if my come bets are on the 4-10...I would add a place 6 and possibly a place 8.

    I just see the across the board players get burned far too often to consider the play...as the regular player that I am.
     
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    amazing how fucking stupid hall is, or acts.

    is it possible he is that fucking stupid?

    he just doesn't grasp anything.

    I know many people from texas----, Houston, Austin, and a very high ranking military official from san Antonio.
    They are all intelligent, super friendly, basically, real nice down to earth people, they would be ashamed to know hall is from the same state as them,

    that goes for Arizona also, even though I only know 2 people from Arizona who were born and raised there, hall would be an embarrassment for them, just another local yokel with shit for brains.





    get ready everyone, the ny slum comments are on the way..... go get em jimmy boy.(go buy a book on craps, maybe you will learn something, ya know, learn something or quit)
     
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  20. Freddyy, Mar 29, 2018

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    I like to get to cover 4 numbers when in profits from the hand. We’re talking long hands.

    It’s fun to have a few backup plans ready.
     
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