NORMAL 7- Out

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  1. eagleeye2, Aug 9, 2018

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    WOW Liman, you are much more than a bit Delusional & the shoe fits so to speak!

    Webster Definition of poser ~ a puzzling or baffling question.

    What you EXPECT (as you state above) from a Casino, would place you in the ""Whale"" class of players; yes very DELUSIONAL on your part!

    eagleeye2
     
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  2. James Hall, Aug 9, 2018

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    If things go phenomenally bad he's playing the wrong game
    and / or staying too long and chasing losers.
    If you guys are getting that stuff you need to up your game
    and stay out of casinos that provide THOSE COMPS.
    Yep you randy guys love the doom and gloom , it makes
    you feel like just one of the guys . It's like you keep saying
    You Randy guys all win and LOSE at the same rate
    and I know that some of you grab all the free stuff / comps
    you can get to help offset those constant losses.

    You have an advantage over these other guys
    you live 15 minutes from a casino and you can ride
    you bicycle and save a ton of gas money , "SMART"
     
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  3. TDVegas, Aug 9, 2018

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    Your trip reports are nothing....

    "Vault assault"

    That's it.

    Zero details, nothing on what worked or even where you played. To this day...no one even knows what casino you have even played at....yet you think people believe your stories?

    The ONLY thing we know is that you live in Mesa....4-5 hours from the nearest live table.

    There is absolutely nothing authentic about what you say and post here. Nothing verifiable. Nothing other than "vault assault". Liman reports on MANY, MANY of his nice wins with details, pictures and words.

    I prefer honesty AND a real trip report...over 2 words ("vault assault")
     
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  4. James Hall, Aug 9, 2018

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    Boy that is rich , The only thing we know is you live in Mesa LOL
    Bull squash you prefer , "DOOM & GLOOM"
    Then you fit right in ,

    Yeah that Liman is a peach alright

    "The only thing we know is you live in Mesa" LMAO
     
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  5. James Hall, Aug 9, 2018

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    I have to give you credit there , I don't post trip reports
    I tried that , In fact one of my very first posts on this forum
    I tried that and I got a very nasty scathing response from
    some jerk off , TDVegas who said ,
    "If you think you are going to get on here
    with these outrageous claims with no response you are crazy
    you will get PUSH BACK every time 2 members who are
    no longer posting and one who says he reads the threads
    but doesn't post because , "YOU" got all over him for
    asking a question about dice control , and he said
    that I shouldn't talk about that stuff because TDVegas and
    some other guys have run off a lot of the posters on this forum
    who talk about dice control . Then just a day or two later
    here you came with "You need to keep your mouth shut
    about that stuff, there are some things you shouldn't
    post on these forums"

    Yep I tried that trip report stuff , the problem is
    I just can't post what you and most of the guys
    on this forum want to hear
    I am not a GAMBLING DEGENERATE wh plays every day
    and I don't lose my ass , You need to get those stories
    from Liman , DeMango , HornHy and the rest of those
    guys . I just don't have any stories , "HOW BAD THE FOOD IS
    How I lost my ass , Get the DOOM & GLOOM from
    the guys that live that stuff I can't help you there
     
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  6. TDVegas, Aug 9, 2018

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    Not accurate. What got "pushback" was the claim that your craps winnings bought you 4 homes. No question that got pushback...no one believes that shit.
    Nah...not true. I got all over someone for ASKING a question on DI? False. Made up. Fabricated. I would never get "all over" someone for simply asking a question on DI.
    No one can be run off. They might leave of their own volition. That's their decision.
    I would probably consider that good advice. I think Superrick advocated this as well. I never ordered anyone to stay quiet. That's impossible to do, regardless.
    We know that. Harrah's, NM.
    BLEW UP big time. Big, big mistake.
     
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  7. James Hall, Aug 9, 2018

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    Post the post
    That's what they said I believe them ,
    you push back on every post that
    goes against anything you will not accept
    because you don't understand it ,haven't seen it
    or heard it
    Several people , DIs primarily DECIDED to leave because of you and
    your constant nit picking , personal attacks
    Your constant general push back have caused them to leave
    because they find your constant attacks offensive
    They go elsewhere so they don't have to wade
    thru your constant abusive assault on everything
    you just will not or cannot accept
    ORDERED is pretty harsh but you attack people none the less
    and that is easy when you sit behind a computer totally anonymous
    doing what you do , You say things you would never say
    if you were talking to people face to face
    No it didn't it did just what I had intended
    you guys scrambling for weeks


    You were the target and you are still stewing over it
    and the strange thing you are not even sure
    what it was all about . All you know is
    that there was just under $30,000 in chips won
    from Harrah's in Las Vegas beyond that you know nothing ,
    You came to some conclusions DeMango lead you into one
    with his , "Houston we have a problem"
    Then the revelation , those chips are from Las Vegas
    Then the topper , "HE ERASED THE META DATA"
    That one I had not expected and
    that one took another 2 or 3 days of scrambling
    Nope it didn't blow up , it did simmer for a few days
    but it still has you in a tail spin.
    Parker and the boys still laugh about that

    Even now every time we go play one of the guys
    will repeat what you posted just before that trip
    you remember what that was

    "HAVE FUN , TAKE PICTURES"

    and we crack up and someone will say , "Do we have a camera"
    and we laugh again


    When I had that picture of me taken in front
    of Red Rock what's his name saw it and checked
    the META DATA and said it was taken
    in the Eastern part of the country
     
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  8. eagleeye2, Aug 9, 2018

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    TDV,

    You Brain Trust members on this thread prefer to CONFUSE, rather than help the folks understand things about CRAPS.

    For those that wish to clarify some things about Casino CRAPS, read below:

    Facts are, that with Totally Random Throws, Unbalanced Dice Provide a Greater TAKE for the Casino, & Stripping the Do Betting Customer of his $$$ Quicker, than when Totally Balanced Dice are employed!

    The Typical B.S. Posts from Brain Trust Members, documents their inability to comprehend one of the BASIC Facts of Current Day Casino Practices, i.e. the frequent use of Weight Biased Dice.

    THEREFORE:

    1) Any Person that would not bother to monitor a Craps Table

    2) To establish Casino Use of Straight, or Biased Dice, Prior to Playing there

    3) In TODAY's Casino Environment, happens to be classified as an ""AMATEUR Craps Player"" , period!

    4) Never Forget, It's your $$$ to protect, that is, assuming you Play for more than the entertainment value; which the Brain trust Members here appear to be playing for.

    eagleeye2
     
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  9. eagleeye2, Aug 9, 2018

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    TDV,

    You Brain Trust members on this thread prefer to CONFUSE, rather than help the folks understand things about CRAPS.

    For those that wish to clarify some things about Casino CRAPS, read below:

    Facts are, that with Totally Random Throws, Unbalanced Dice Provide a Greater TAKE for the Casino, & Stripping the Do Betting Customer of his $$$ Quicker, than when Totally Balanced Dice are employed!

    The Typical B.S. Posts from Brain Trust Members, documents their inability to comprehend one of the BASIC Facts of Current Day Casino Practices, i.e. the frequent use of Weight Biased Dice.

    THEREFORE:

    1) Any Person that would not bother to monitor a Craps Table

    2) To establish Casino Use of Straight, or Biased Dice, Prior to Playing there

    3) In TODAY's Casino Environment, happens to be classified as an ""AMATEUR Craps Player"" , period!

    4) Never Forget, It's your $$$ to protect, that is, assuming you Play for more than the entertainment value; which the Brain trust Members here appear to be playing for.

    eagleeye2
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Aug 10, 2018

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    Fact is it's the opposite. If the dice are unbalanced it is no longer a random toss no matter who is tossing. One of the parameters of "Random Dice" has been altered. The casinos want balanced dice. It's in their best interest.
     
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  11. Twelve4s, Aug 10, 2018

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    You must be referring to your best Craps buddy, Supperrick,

     
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  12. Bases loaded, Aug 10, 2018

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    Loved SuperRick's videos!! Quirky and offbeat, but always entertaining.

    SuperRick, post a new video!! Let us know you're out there and ok.
     
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  13. Bases loaded, Aug 10, 2018

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    Rick was always supplying new content. His trips, his videos, the table heist, the ACA, etc., etc.

    The so called DI's left on the site just run in circles. Same shit churned up every day. Learn to quit or win!
     
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  14. twodicebilly, Aug 10, 2018

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    TDV

    Here is where you get very confused, and you your not stupid
    so your doing it on purpose....

    You said this...…………..Agreed...but those who believe the game is random, like roulette, like slots----feel that there is nothing you can do to be "a better craps player". At least as far as skill is involved. Strategy is a different animal. There are better strategies.

    TDV you can believe what you want....that does not mean I have to
    agree....I bowled well, my golf is barely average, I was a good basketball player and a very good baseball player....I can shoot a gun and am better with a bow......I will tell you right now that throwing a pair
    of dice correctly, consistently is far harder....than any of these..far harder.

    Now we are not talking about the results....we are talking about the shot...that is the skill, and it is a skill you dont have so you dont value.
    Then you need to understand that influence can be good or bad...I just
    slightly off will produce more 7/s than a random guy...
    look at the hardway set....a random guys just chucks them...the stand
    dard math of the games applies with every shot.....now you get your shot looking good, the closer you get to good the closer you get to a double pitch on every shot....so it is not good enough to be good, you got to get even better...….that is what Top is talking about when e indicates he hit a bad streak....we all have , tops knows I did that is because my shot got better and all I got was 7's and I was not good enough to get past that until I learned to adjust my set...thanks to SR.

    TDV, my opinion has changed some here,,,,i actually welcome your posts and am glad your here...you got your way of playing and I and James, and others have theirs....

    I dont think it is to much to ask that if you have not done the work to understand our way.....maybe we see something you dont because
    we have done something you didn't.


    tdb
     
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  15. eagleeye2, Aug 10, 2018

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    tdb,


    Here is where you get very confused, and you your not stupid
    so your doing it on purpose....

    ...........

    I don't think it is to much to ask that if you have not done the work to understand our way.....maybe we see something you don't because
    we have done something you didn't.[/QUOTE]


    No tbd,... TT is just a Negative Nancy when it comes to CRAPS.

    He has likely LOST more than he can ever ever hope to recover @ the CRAPS TABLES!

    eagleeye2
     
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  16. tabletop123, Aug 10, 2018

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    Billy...this is where James, & I part ways. I indicated to him ( a while back) that as your toss gets better it ( sometimes) brings you closer to a Seven.

    Well...he couldn't understand/agree with that. You absolutely MUST adjust to a different set if you are getting too many unwanted 7's, & if you REALLY know your toss, you can adjust your toss/set BEFORE that 7 comes to Possibly extend your hand. ( Not always, though)
    I know that for MYSELF/MY TOSS...if I get two consecutive craps numbers, it's time to make SOME KIND of an adjustment. It could be permutating the existing dice set, or switching to a different dice set, altogether.

    However, with THAT being said....Favorable RESULTS from a well executed toss are not guaranteed.
    The Mechanical Tosser does JUST THAT... He/she ....attempts to repeat the SAME toss over, & over with the HOPES of receiving favorable results.
    VARIANCE is a determining force with WHOMEVER that tosses the dice...Novice, or So-called Dice Influencer.
    I have always said that on SOME days....a well executed toss is the worst thing that can happen. You toss magnificently over, & over, only to receive less than favorable results. Sometimes the game just doesn't want to cooperate & there's simply nothing that you can do about it.

    The gurus will always say that it's something subtle that you're doing to cause less than stellar results. A lot of times it's not. Its simply that your toss ain't working, & it's time to go do something else. Come back later, instead of thinking that you're doing something wrong.
    Sometimes you go trying to fix something that ain't broke, when the best remedy is to simply take a break!!!

    No matter how good that your mechanics are.....you're Gonna hit a few rough patches. That's just the way it is.. Trying to practice, & fix something that ain't broke is ( as Jame's says) is a complete exercise in futility.

    The multi-talented pool player " Buddy Hall" played GREAT during the 1980's. He mowed down every good player That crossed his path in the " Back Room" gambling matches.
    However, every time that he was in a position to win a tournament, his opponent either " shitted out on him" ( slopped in a shot, & went on to win), or Buddy broke the balls perfectly, & never got a clear shot on the lowest numbered ball ( playing nine-ball).

    Sometimes it just ain't your day, ( no matter how good your mechanics are) & ya gotta know when to," shut it down", & NOT go spending 1-2 hours trying to fix your toss when it ain't broken!!!
     
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  17. tabletop123, Aug 10, 2018

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    No tbd,... TT is just a Negative Nancy when it comes to CRAPS.

    He has likely LOST more than he can ever ever hope to recover @ the CRAPS TABLES!

    eagleeye2[/QUOTE]
    Nope....not a Negative Nancy...only a realist.
    Yep...you ARE correct. Have lost more $$$$ playing craps than I can ever recover( unless I miraculously go on a Heck of a run).

    Call me what you want, but you'll never have any credence in calling me a liar.

    By the way....how's that new Matress working out for ya? There's a sizzling rumor that ya won over $300 playing at the El Cortez, & FINALLY caught a sale at the Mattress Factory, & remodeled your Back seat in that banged-up truck of yours.

    Someone said ( I can't reveal " Who") they spotted you riding down the strip with a brand new " Sheep Skin" back seat under the new Mattress. Had to remove that old leather back seat, & put in the Sheep skin did ya?
    Guess that sweltering 100 degree heat was just too much for ya...sleeping on that leather back seat, huh?

    Continued Success at El Cortez!!!!
     
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  18. twodicebilly, Aug 10, 2018

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    What I have learned over the ten years of this stuff is
    that I dont have the ability to take it to the next level up....I am
    tapped out, I will have to be satisfied with who I am today.

    I have spoken to a couple of the real good GTC guys and they
    admitted ( in private) that getting a good shot without the ability
    to take your shot one more step higher is what kills almost all
    that try...throwing the perfect dice shot in ever changing conditions
    is next to impossible for most people...
    You hear the endless parade of noise....it is the grip, get your grip
    fixed , take another class for the grip......and they are right, but
    what you never hear is that the truth it is the ability to get good enough
    to beat the double pitch, is over most of our heads....day in and day
    out...we can do it now and then...

    There are guys that I think are that good, James may be one of them...
    I am not, so I had to learn to adjust to my sets to my shot...

    the good news is I can love playing craps just the way I am, I dont
    beat myself up because I cant over power the table or walk the
    streets of Vegas like "breaking Vegas" indicated for Dom.

    The secret to life I guess is enjoying what you can do, instead of beating
    yourself up about something you cant do.


    tdb
     
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  19. James Hall, Aug 10, 2018

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    Fred P
    FredPCheck my post "James Hall is Eagleeye2".
    Can you verify? Grounds for a ban?

    Fred P decided to tell teacher on James
    You sent a PM to Liman some months ago asking
    him to attack me , and then this
    Do you ever do your own dirty work

    Why don't you PM Liman again maybe he will step up the attacks , "AGAIN"
     
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  20. James Hall, Aug 10, 2018

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    No tbd,... TT is just a Negative Nancy when it comes to CRAPS.

    He has likely LOST more than he can ever ever hope to recover @ the CRAPS TABLES!

    eagleeye2[/QUOTE]
    Check post 79 this page and see a message from FredP
     
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