What is it with all of this Winning at the Craps Table? At best, it is temporary and worth writing about the experience in your Craps Memory Book. - First of all, everyone should understand the Pass and Don't Pass side of Craps. - Secondly, everyone should understand Correct Odds and how to manipulate Place Bets at a 2X Table. - Thirdly, WHY the concentration on Winning? When, many are losing in the process. If you have had a losing streak... why keep continuing with the same game plan? You are Playing to Lose. At any Craps Table, nothing says you cannot make counter intuitive wagers. Each Player has a mental image of how to wager at a Craps Table. That has become your worst enemy... playing the same System over and over expecting different results. Do not practice this at a live Craps Table with Bankroll. Do this off the table with a dice cup and the small felt Craps Layout that sells for under $18. Mix up your game. Pass for Point, odds. Place several wagers, A Don't Come flat wager. A hardway protected by a Place or Don't Come number already working. Make it an elaborate "Doey Don't". TRY to LOSE... for once. You obviously have perfected the Playing to Win much too often and losing in the process. This is not to be taken lightly. You are already in possession of above average intelligence just reading Threads on this Forum. Sure Dice Setting is enough to give one a massive headache, but if you work on just sets that focus on what you are wagering, that is a start. Even if you have only a vague concept, just work on a random set that you think looks good and shoot. If you are not the shooter... who cares. The majority are Dice Chuckers and produce good and bad Outcomes in the Process. So play on the 'Good' and the 'Bad' with smart play. Dice Bias... with the this elaborate Doey Don't... it makes no sense to protect yourself from... the Bogey Man. It is not your Bankroll amount, that makes you lose. Play a $100 bankroll in proportion to what a $500 bankroll would. You play to win by Percentage of Bankroll... not totals. Once you have that figured out... you are on your way to the La La Land framed photo on the wall at your favorite Casino. There is no status in losing $500 in ten minutes at any Craps Table... What is the purpose of this Thread? If you do not know, get back to the basics. Mix up your wagers. A Don't Pass 4 or 10 'feel' safer than a Don't Pass 6 or 8. Keep the Don't Pass 4 or 10 and move the Don't Pass 6 or 8, even if not the best move percentage wise... or make a Hard 6 or 8 to balance a hard way win on the Don't Pass wager. Sound like a deranged flea bitten Craps Degenerate? NO, not yet. But now you are getting the idea that try out some changes. Even take a win, press... take the next win, put onto the Don't Come as a flat bet and churn the table a little bit more. This doing it over and over and over with the same Lame System, may be easier... but when you have to keep track of your wagers and the dealer paying out on them... you are one among the many. No one has the secret to Craps Success. So, try something else out. Work it out at HOME FIRST... and then get a few Sessions at a table. It is only money that your relatives will not inherit if you lose. They can get their own from working a couple more years.