New Model to explain how to beat Aruze Bubble Craps

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  1. TR31

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    I am sharing a new approach to understand when Aruze Bubble Craps is beatable using dice control (since the only thing the shooter controls is WHEN TO PRESS THE DAMN BUTTON).

    This new approach breaks Aruze game into four distinct steps:

    #1 Dice shaking / the "set" (how fast is the vibrating plate causing the dice to shake within the first 3 seconds, etc; note I never defined the "set" and I will never define it but IT IS NOT a "top" set or "up" set).

    #2 The Launch (how fast did the vibrating plate launch the dice, did the dice hit the ceiling, did the dice barely get off the vibrating plate, etc)

    #3 Dice Rotation (how much force did the vibrating plate use to effect the dice rotation while it is in mid-air, e.g. how fast are the dice rotating in mid-air or did the dice just jump up and did not rotate at all, etc)

    4 Dice Landing (does the dice stick when it lands, does one or both dice tumble at landing, etc)

    The most IMPORTANT point is that the shooter presses the button between steps #1 & #2 meaning the shooter has to have a good idea about steps #2, #3 & #4.

    Dude, this stuff is self-explanatory unless you are really dumb (like some unnamed people on this forum), then I can't help you.

    Here is the biggest cue: Find the game in the right mode and you find it in the right mode by working backwards or use inversion.

    Good luck and make money in the game (or be like me, lose money on Aruze Craps but get a lot more back via mailers).
     
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  2. TDVegas, Nov 28, 2018

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    LOL...That's not an "approach" or "method" to beat bubble craps.

    All you did is outline what actually happens in bubble craps.

    Duh, Harley.

    #1- "The dice shake or vibrate".....wow. Profound.
    #2- "The dice launch"...double profound. Dice hit ceiling. And not.
    #3- "Dice rotation"...Yes they do. Or not.
    #4- "Dice landing"...yes, the dice eventually land.

    This is akin to someone saying about how to "beat table craps"....
    "Shake the dice"
    "Toss dice"
    "Dice rotate"
    "Dice bounce and land"

    LOL.

    You're on your way!

    I see you got your internet access back. Finally paid the bill? I'm guessing you slinked into a coffee shop and borrowed their wifi.

    When you HAVE an actual method...you let us know. There are several bubble craps players here who can test it out.
     
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  3. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    I think I solved the mystery I mentioned in the thread , "12=30:1
    as to why we lost those good shooters in that thread.
    The answer lies in this response from TDVegas.
    It all becomes very clear now
     
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    Thanx I owe you I read this and ran over to the casino and won 3730 dollars on your advice

    People who don't listen and refuse to accept this golden post are asswipes
     
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  5. TDVegas, Nov 28, 2018

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    It's called healthy skeptism. It's called not just accepting outright, each and every claim to beat a machine or 200 year old game with blind faith. It's called critical thinking. It's called spotting bullshit.

    You wouldn't know any of these things as you are the #1 purveyor of bullshit.:D

    Tell ya what, try your spiel on the WofV forum. I dare ya:)....you'll be kicked out of there faster than you can say "wow whacker".o_O
     
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  6. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    No you still don't understand , it's not , "healthy Skepticism"
    It's not healthy and it's not skepticism , it's
    "Contradiction & Criticism" you will not abide
    anything related to winning being posted here.
     
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  7. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

    James Hall

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    That argument will never fly I do not recall anyone saying
    You can win with blind faith or the only way to win is to have blind faith.
    I have posted as others have that learning to win
    takes an investment of TIME , EFFORT and ENERGY.
    I and others have said it is not easy.
    You on the other hand would have people believe it is impossible.
    Wrong again. When you SPOT something you don't like posted
    you CALL it BULL SHIT.
    In reality that is a title best held by you and no one else.
     
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  8. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    If they are as ignorant and narrow minded as you that
    would be very possible
     
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  9. lone irish digit, Nov 28, 2018

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    This is Eustace,

    I'm still waiting at Barney's keyboard for this nude model to show some of her details regarding this matter so I can beat the thing. Does shaking help? Where's the video?
     
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  10. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    Because you think that winning in the long run is impossible
    anything posted contrary to that will be , as you promised
    met with immediate and severe push back.
    Many who have posted here have stopped because of you
    and that crap. Now you have others backing up your
    Contradiction & Criticism. As a result there are very few
    left who will put up with your crap. This at one time
    was a good forum offering opposing views , you will not tolerate that
    as a result of your constant push back
    you promise many are now gone
     
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  11. Mssthis1, Nov 28, 2018

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    Be patient Eustace. As soon as Harley's home gets in range of free wifi he'll post pictures. 7865340450_5cdfbbe829_b.jpg
     
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  12. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    The pips on bottom die are correct
    Pips on the top die are backwards.
    The artist probably IS a SHAKER and not a DI.
    The artwork nevertheless is nice.
     
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  13. Twelve4s, Nov 28, 2018

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    Not sure if TR31 was here when the very famous Bubble Research Team was conducting their investigations into Bubble Craps devices at various casinos around the states. I believe they looked into what some players claimed was an inversion advantage over these machines. These astute researchers hired assistants to test these theories.

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    Unfortunately, almost every casino where they tried inversion, asked them to leave and take their gym with them. So I believe the team concluded that inversion was not a realistic strategy in a real casino setting and suggested such practitioners should find a garage with a bubble machine.

    You may recall the research team as shown below.

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    It was also noted in their final report, that Inversion is not an advantage play, but Perversion usually gives the player an advantage, especially at slut devices.
     
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  14. von duck, Nov 28, 2018

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    Which did he write first, the post, or the reply? :)
     
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  15. James Hall, Nov 28, 2018

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    Not quite sure.
     
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    To TD, the village idiot of this website, we are all still waiting for you to explain how I rolled 20 (6,7,8) out 23 rolls in this thread http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/duh-mango-its-raining-6-7-8.38033/page-2

    TD, you have made some of the dumbest "WHITE TRASH" arguments in the past on why my approach won't and you continues to make dumb "WHITE TRASH" arguments. If you are unable to explain 20 (6,7,8) rolls in 23 consecutive attempts, then give it a rest.
     
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  17. TDVegas, Dec 9, 2018

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    7 months ago? A roll like that once every 7 months? Variance. I pull off these type of rolls every so often too.

    These type of rolls DO happen. Do it once a week, do it once every 2 weeks...you might find somebody to listen to you.

    Once every 7-8 months?....pffft. Variance.

    I'll "explain" it again...in case you can't understand, Harley.

    Variance. Variance. Funky stuff happens. I've played enough to know.

    Stay warm...I hear the garages get very cold.
     
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  18. TR31

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    TD is so jealous of my success and cannot stand the fact that I share information to help people win money from Aruze Bubble Craps.

    If you look at this new approach, it breaks the decision on when to press the button AND/OR how to find the machine in the right condition. The "set / shake" is important because that is when to press the button while ANTICIPATING the next three steps. And if the machine is in the right condition, the dice will: (a) launch, (b) rotate in the air, AND (c) land per your expectations. TD's has several problems with the biggest one in that he uses visual ballistics but cannot discern covariance between the set and final result -- my approach is dice mappings: mapping the set to the final dice outcomes or commonly known in basic statistics as covariance or co-movement. I have found on a consistent basis that when the machine is in a certain condition, the mappings have much higher covariance. In this thread http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/duh-mango-its-raining-6-7-8.38033/ I have shown that rolling 20 (6,7,8) out of 23 consecutive rolls are possible. And, if you studied statistics at the graduate level, I am taking advantage of a phenomenon known as auto-correlation or serial correlation. Yes, I know how to spot this auto-correlation phenomenon but I am not sharing this detail because it's the secret sauce.

    I've used this analogy in the past: Image shaking dice in a cup and you have to predict the outcome of the dice; it would be far easier to predict the outcome if the dice is not shaken at all and the dice gently slides out of the cup versus someone aggressively shaking the dice in the cup and then lets the dice out with great force.

    In Aruze Bubble Craps, you cannot pick up the dice to set it (so the alternative is to press the button when you see the right set assuming the machine gives you the set you need); and, you cannot throw the dice (so you you need to predict dice launch force by the vibrating plate, predict dice rotation, and dice landing).

    My post makes it obvious: if you cannot predict the launch speed or force, the dice rotation, or landing, etc then do not play. I was in Reno recently and I had the luxury of choosing which machine (or machines) is in the right condition. It sucks driving to downtown (Harrah's, El Dorado, Silver Legacy, and Circus Circus) and then drive to Rail City, GSR, and Nugget just to decide if any of these machines are worth shooting. Usually, you get one machine that is in great condition and two machines are okay to shoot and the rest aren't worth it.

    I have stated many times before, the fact that Aruze does not change its dice in a timely fashion makes the game vulnerable to dice control experts like myself. I am not saying the machine can be beaten on every roll; and instead, I have been saying the game is BEATABLE when the machine is in the right condition.

    Good luck and make some money.
     
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    TD, you are a MORON who continues to use WHITE TRASH arguments.

    Some of us understand binomial probabilities and here is an online binomial calculator: https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx

    Variance alone allow cannot explain 20 (6,7,8) out of 23 consecutive rolls but you are too STUPID to understand binomial probabilities. TD, it must suck growing up in a trailer park.
     
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    Your whole world is nothing but variance.
    He may understand Harley better than you think.

    Boy what a run we had on the table last night.
     
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