Need Recommendations for my Come Out Roll

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  1. Badcompany12, Feb 1, 2014

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    I am getting a lot of 7's and craps on my come out roll set. I'm trying to work out a formula to press and yet make a profit. Last week I threw 5 sevens in a row and made great money. I started out with hopping 7's for $3 and a $5 whirl. The next 4 rolls I will show what I bet.
    $6 $10 whirl
    $12 $15 whirl
    $18 $15 whirl
    $30 $20 whirl

    Then I made a point. I'm trying to calculate a way to incorporate hopping 7's, whirl bets, horn bets, and 3-way craps into profitable bets.

    This is my rough draft: Hopping 7's Whirl Horn
    $6 $5 $4
    $12 $5 $4
    $24 $15 $4
    $42 $25 $8
    $60 $35 $12
    $6 $5 $4 (never throw more than 5 sevens in a row. Kept shooting records)

    I'm taking in consideration of throwing 7's or a crap, but still making a profit and allowing to press bets.

    Thank you in advance of your advice. I'll be in AC on Feb 11 to 13 to use some betting systems which incorporate my throwing abilities.

    (I'm starting to see a huge profit potential on the come out roll and a lot of shooters fail to recognize this. At least when I throw.)
     
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  2. The Comeback Kid, Feb 1, 2014

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    Try No 4 for $50 (a white vig)

    Collect $25 every 7.

    Once point established pull down.

    I'm planning an A/C visit Thursday.
     
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  3. CrapsGenius, Feb 3, 2014

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    if you roll lots of 7's then invest your time finding the least number rolled on comeout in all your sessions and then Lay that number for all you can.

    example: I also rolled 7 5x in a row the other night and knowing that using my dice set, I very rarely roll a 4 on comeout so I would lay $200/4 and collect $100 profit for every 7 rolled and take it down when you establish a point.
     
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  4. mycoalsmith, Feb 4, 2014

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    If you roll lots of 7's on the Come out, usually what I do is Press the win. So for a $5.00 Pass bet, a 7 rolls, you then Press and have $10.00 on the line. $10.00 turns to $20.00, $20.00 to $40.00, $40.00 to $80.00. The bad thing about this is you then have to make the Point to get your money - but that $5.00 bet turned into $20.00, $40.00, $80.00, $160.00 win is great.

    Of course, playing the above way, a 2, 3, or 12 takes your bet away if you don't have a Whirl or Craps bet.

    I usually Press it until it gets up to $20.00 on the Pass Line, and then I take 3 chips off (to take a profit) and continue on.
     
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  5. crapsdealer, May 3, 2014

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    I don't want to get too much into prop bets/center action because I know the odds, but the only mistake you're making(besides these bets lol) is the 3 unit world bet. A craps player knows, if you're making a $15 world, you're better off betting a $12 horn and hop the 7s $1 each....All the payouts are the same (11, 2, 3, 12), but a $15 world, the 7 pushes. $12 horn and hop the 7's , you make a buck each time. It's a small edge, but you should take advantage of it when you get to the 3 units(or multiples of 3)
     
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  6. crapsdealer, May 3, 2014

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    And please, it's "world", not "whirl"....it's
    spelled out right on the table!!
     
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  7. $nakeEye$, May 3, 2014

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    Actually " WHIRL " is the correct reference to this bet -

    http://www.lolcraps.com/craps/bets/whirl/

    Because the printer of the craps layouts slaughtered the English language and/or made a mistake -

    Does NOT give credence to your irrational explanation - " Because it's printed on the layout ..... " -

    HOW much printed material has been discarded due to spelling mistakes , etc. -

    You would be more than amazed !

    $...eE..$
     
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  8. bleeckerboy, Sep 18, 2014

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    Doesn't $30 (re-bet the hop ant $10 each) go to $150 and then $150 (re-bet the hop at $50 each) to $750...or am I missing something?
     
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  9. rudeboy99, Sep 24, 2014

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    Your 3-way TURNING Seven pays 13-1for the winning bet if you keep the two losers up, 16 to 1 and "down" should you decide not to bet it consecutively.
     
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  10. Back2Back12s, Oct 6, 2014

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    I always place the same bet on the come-out roll. $25.00 placed, $10.00-12 / $5.00-2 $5.00-3/ $5.00-11.
    Also $1.00 on all the hard way's with $1.00 on hard 8 for the crew.
    I stay away from the 7 hop or world bets.
    Do the math 12=$300.00/2=$150.00/3=$75.00/11=$75.00 + $8.00 as a craps"
    My number is the 12 if it comes up and it does quite often, I throw down $100.00 on it +$5.00 on the other three. If it rolls back to back baby that's an easy $3,000.00 on two rolls. If the 7 roll's then I replace the bets.
    Also if any horn number rolls during a pass I place $20.00 horn because they roll on a cycle. In the mean time I watch for a sequence where the numbers are rolling and place then press twice either 4/5/6/8/9/10.
    If a 9 rolls I hop a one way 5 ==2/3 for $10.00 and vise versa if a 5 rolls I hop a one way 4/5 nine for $10.00 either way they should pay $300.00 @ 30 to 1
    That's what I do on the come out. And it works. I'm up $20,000.00 for the year.
     
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  11. way out, Oct 10, 2014

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    that's a lot to put on high odds rolls. you have a lot of courage!
     
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  12. Back2Back12s, Oct 10, 2014

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    Hello wayout, I have good luck with the twelve and two, Last ime at the casino I hit it on the come out and walked with $800.00 and a free lunch at the café!!!!!
    I just found out about placing a $6.00 three way hopping bet on the comeout on the 7!!!
    Yeah man it pays 30 to 1 so $2.00 will pay $60.00 Howdy!!
    If you tossed out $10.00 on 3/4 and it rolled youd be talking about $300.00
    I'm gonna give it a try on my next visit and see what rolls.
    I just finished building my own 6 foot table and have been practicing this bet and it seems to work well especially if you double up if it rolls 7 and then rolls seven a second time. Bingoooo
     
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  13. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 12, 2014

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    You might want to double check that payout. 2, 12, and the hoppin' hardways pay 30:1; the rest of the hoppers pay 15:1. If you do find a house that pays 30:1 on a 4-3 hop bet keep it to yourself lest the goose that lays those golden eggs get trampled by players eager to cash in before the casino goes broke.
     
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  14. Back2Back12s, Oct 13, 2014

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    Yes your right, I miss read the article. I was excited about finding out that a hardway hopping bet pays 35:1
    I've been on tables where the shooter is rolling hardways one after the other, with a $10.00 bet just one hit would be $350.00
    But still 15:1 is better that even pay for a passline 7. Last night in practicing on my table I rolled 4-7's in a roll if you parleyed that for three rolls you could have accumulated $16,875.00 !!!!
     
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    This is the smartest bet you could make if you roll a lot of 7's. Or a No 10 for $50. Stay away from the world.
     
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  16. way out, Oct 19, 2014

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    We don't have the hop bets here at my local casino but will see if they have them in vegas where I may go in December. Health and a big snow storm could factor in here. Keeping my fingers crossed. Always have a good time in vegas. The dealers are super nice to me and very patient also. Thanks for your input from ...way out
     
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    Every casino in Vegas offers HOP bets. Some tables might not show them on the layout but rest assure you can make those bets if you call them. Honestly, if you're going to play the HOP you might as well play roulette.I only play it when the table is hot and my bankroll is up. I'll never toss more than $2 on a number combo and that's all I'm willing to risk. You can diminish your bankroll playing that bet consistently.
     
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  18. fourtyfour, Oct 20, 2014

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    It sounds like you know what you roll the most on your come out, so I wouldn't let anyone try to talk you out of it. I personally like to play 7's hopping on my come out because that's what I roll. 3-way 7 @ $5 each will net you $65, but I don't play it every time. One thing I have noticed is that everybody rolls different... or maybe it's just me. :D lol
     
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  19. far out, Oct 23, 2014

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    to fourtyfour about your mostly rolling 7's on a come out roll. can I ask you how you hold the dice and toss them. you don't have to tell me but I'm curious as I don't have much consistency on mine. from far out
     
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  20. fourtyfour, Oct 23, 2014

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    I use one finger and thumb in the middle of the dice. I like to have a 4/1 3/6 facing me on the dice. I like this because I can easily track what they are doing when they land. If I'm getting hard 6 and 8 I know this isn't going to be good for my 3v set up after the point is established so I switch to my version of the hardway set. If I get hard 4, 10 or 2/5 sevens I know I'm not on axis and try to fix the problem with my throw. I love seeing 3/4 sevens on a come out because I know to bet the hard 6 and 8 when I switch to 3v. I do practice on a 12' table at least 2 hours per day.
     
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