Remember, this is the Beginner Zone, so no wising off, please. I'm math challenged, and craps has exposed me to more math than I can understand. One of those things is odds, which apply to all gambling. I do understand the odds of certain numbers showing compared to the 7: The 6 & 8, for example will show 5 times out of 36; the 7 will show 6 times, giving odds of 5:6. For payout (I think), the ratio is reversed, 6:5 for true odds. And so forth re: rest of the numbers. I get that. Where I get hung up is when I see odds like these in today's LV Review-Journal sports page: Odds To Win World Series: Chicago Cubs 9-2 SF Giants 8-1 So, 9-2 odds are better than 8-1? And I suppose these are payout odds, so the actual odds are expressed as 2-9 & 1-8? But, why is 2-9 better than 1-8? I thought the lower the numbers, the better the odds. I get that these (& all) odds can be expressed as fractions: 2/9, 1/8, but I still don't get that. Another example: Odds To Win NBA Title: Golden State 1-2 SA Spurs 19-5 Now if GS's odds are payout odds, you bet $2 to win $1? Sounds like don't craps wagers, to me. And, what's w/ SA at 19-5? How does an oddsmaker determine 19-5 odds? Actual odds would be 2-1 & 5-19. But it becomes ridiculous to have 2/1, I think. 5/19 as a fraction is ok, but I don't get the 5-19 number. How does an oddsmaker determine that? 777 has a chapter on odds in his book, which I have, but it's all packed up, waiting for my next move. Would appreciate anyone willing to explain all this to a math dummy.