MP' s 2 finger UH journey

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  1. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

    James Hall

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    That would depend entirely on what you mean by
    "Make money at craps".

    Some players are willing to accept those small wins
    session after session only to be wiped out in the long run
    never fully realizing that
    "It is much easier to win with larger wins
    than it is with smaller losses or even smaller wins".
    Long hands make winning much much easier and
    every player should always strive to that end
     
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  2. lone irish digit, Apr 11, 2019

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    Forgot to mention the Facebook's personage according to the LID was betting the doeydonts plus all across WOCO strategy whatevers that means.
     
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  3. eagleeye2, Apr 11, 2019

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    Pity on them, but then they earned it!!!

    eagleeye2
     
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  4. tabletop123, Apr 11, 2019

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    Really doesn't matter WHAT people think, or how they interpret my posts. What REALLY matters is.....HOW MUCH $$$$ am I winning or losing in the CASINOS.

    After spending the better part of 10 yrs at the craft...if I haven't figured it out YET.....it's probably time to move on to something else. Finding someone qualified to teach you how to toss dice? ....BULLSHIT!!!

    There are a ton of self-taught shooters that can/will/do toss circles around some of these So-Called Instructors.

    Nothing wrong with taking a class, & if someone wants to PAY to learn how to toss dice....NO problem.

    However, everything that you need to know is right here on the internet, & it's totally free

    If it ain't broke.........
    If you feel comfortable doing what you do, & it's making you money in the Casinos........
     
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  5. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

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    Figuring it out for all intents and purposes translates to ,
    learning thru trial and error and that in itself has been deemed to be
    "THE GREATEST EXERCISE IN FUTILITY KNOWN TO MANKIND".
    Trial and error is self explanatory , trying first one thing then another.
    Trying things that many others have tried and found not to work.
    The easiest and quickest method to learn any skill is to
    "Find someone who has developed the skill and get them to teach you"

    Many men over the years have resisted the idea of learning things
    mostly because they were to proud to admit there was something
    they didn't know.

    Some resist learning Dice control / influence because they
    just won't pay for it . The problem with that not spending
    that money costs them on the tables
    To continue to lose when one could leearn to win is foolish
    and very counter intuitive .
    The statement might be MARGINALLY TRUE only from the standpoint
    of , "SELF- TAUGHT" shooters and "SO-CALLED instructors.
    I would take serious issue with the thought that some guy
    fiddling around with Dice control would ever meet the level
    of a TRAINED & SKILLED SHOOTER. Laboring under
    that misconception is what causes so many novice and random
    shooters to constantly bleed money in the casinos
    TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
    You are right about that however reading it or watching it on video
    is ABSOLUTELY no substitute for learning from an instructor one on one.
     
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    Are you a fucking psychologist? You are trying to get everybody to conform to your thinking. You're in a loosing battle asshall.
    You're just an egotistical jerk trying to keep your past life alive on the forum.
     
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  7. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

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    ALTHOUGH that is a question that concerns us all
    the more important issue is WHAT CAN I DO, to
    continue , LEARNING , so I can continue to improve and
    increase my wins.
    Knowing the lengths to which casinos go to , to beat us
    ie. installing the pyramid rubber at the end of the table ,
    the different bounce characteristics of the table surface ,
    the odds set so as to make winning almost impossible
    the vast majority of players go in armed with luck alone.
    With all these disadvantages facing him he will go up against
    the house with little or no skill hoping to win yet refusing
    any effort to learn anything that might help.
    You folks amaze me in that respect.. I am still doing everything I can to learn.
    I would recommend that to everyone , LEARN ALL YOU CAN
     
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  8. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

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    FRAUD P
    Nope not a psychologist but I do know a NUTTY CRANK when YOU come along
    with some childish name calling.
    Nope that's incorrect also , There is no way everybody on this forum
    is ever going to think alike .
    Take you as an example , you labor daily under the misconception
    that your opinions on the game of craps are just fine
    and yet you are not winning , and have absolutely no intention
    of ever learning how winning is done.
    Then totally unprovoked you attack me , insult me , calling me
    names and you want to pretend that I am the bad guy and
    on top of that you try to get everybody on this forum to
    conform to YOUR WAY OF THINKING where that
    is concerned. I guess actually the question should be
    to you , ARE YOU A < "F#^**nG" psychologist???
     
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    You're really a sick person. I have never given any advice on craps, only on your sickness.
     
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  10. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

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    You give people advice on my sickness ?????
    That's a bit odd. I didn't say anything about giving advice on craps
    and I ain't got no sickness. WWOOOOWWOOO.
     
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  11. James Hall, Apr 11, 2019

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    I didn't even know that
    I HAD a past life on the forum. . hhmmm
     
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  12. von duck, Apr 11, 2019

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    And what, would you be Ma'am? :confused: Perhaps your ignore button has malfunctioned? :confused: I did a poll, and 9 out of ten posters said that they want to conform to FredP's, way of thinking. Yes, their motto is "what would FredP think".:) I wasn't one of them though, but I think TD was. :cool:
     
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  13. Dave G Ct, Apr 14, 2019

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    Last night shot a hand with my new betting play.$254 w $5 h.w 4&10 and P.L.
    Hit 4 hours Inc h.w and hard 10.Just your average 3 point hand about 23 rolls.Oh- plus $200.
     
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  14. Dave G Ct, Apr 14, 2019

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    Cashed out.Taking Bone Trackers advise.Donot take advantage of your local casino.Would have shot next hand at $50 four w $10 h.w 4&10!
     
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  15. eagleeye2, Apr 14, 2019

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    Dave G CT,

    Good Advice!

    eagleeye2
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Apr 16, 2019

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    Run came to an end.Two short hands.Toss just was lousy.Sometimes they donot resemble your practice ones.
     
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  17. Dave G Ct, Apr 27, 2019

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    After burning it up for a week lost a couple hands.Started off with a buy bet win on the 4- then hit the point then nothing! I am bad in the heat of battle to decipher " what is wrong with my toss" but figure it out later in practice.


    So may have to wear a rubber band around my right wrist and print " keep wrist locked during entire throw"
    These stupid mistakes !!
     
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  18. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2019

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    Poor Dave! After all of your years of practice, & Casino play....you still haven't figured out that sometimes there's absolutely nothing wrong with your toss?

    Ya know......there's this thing called " Variance" that is lurking in the shadows to complicate things.

    Listen.....YOU KNOW when your release is bad. If your release is bad, & the dice are flying a bit funky.....End the session.

    If your release feels good, & your shot looks good, but you're getting bad results.....Quit the session.

    Contrary to popular belief, SOMETIMES your release is good, but ya keep getting bad results......Take a break.

    I usually don't sweat poor results UNLESS my release is poor. Dave, there will be days wherein no matter how hard that you try....your release won't get any better for THAT particular day. The REALITY of Dice Influencing.

    There's one thing that I learned from ( G) that is PRICELESS......FUCK IT!!!

    Meaning.....sometimes ya have to just forget about tossing dice ( for THAT day or session), & go do something else, & NOT worry about fixing sonething, because sometimes it just ain't your day.

    Tossing the dice for long periods is a Death Sentence. Tossing dice for long periods ( in at-home practice) trying to correct what ya THINK might be a flaw is just as damaging.

    At-home practice is the place to work on your mechanics, but ya gotta know how to walk away from practice when things aren't working out for ya too. ( Treat it just as if you are in the Casinos)

    James does the " one, & done" thingy in the Casinos ( win or lose).

    ( G) does the " two & done" thingy in the Casinos. Personally, I prefer the " two, & done" thingy if that first hand is a loser.

    INVALUABLE advice from BOTH ( G), & James!!!!

    Hang in there Dave. It always gets better when ya preserve your bankroll for the days wherein your toss IS " On".
     
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  19. Dave G Ct, Apr 27, 2019

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    Thx I am usually a 2 and done!
     
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  20. James Hall, Apr 27, 2019

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    ;) Good Advice.
     
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