Modify your System, not your Shooting...

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  1. eDiceGuy, Mar 19, 2018

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    Don't forget Canyon de Chelley in AZ and Chaco Canyon in NM. This summer taking the grandkids to Page, AZ for a raft ride down the Colorado River before the Grand Canyon. Also going to visit Antelope Canyon in Page for the first time.

    Btw, I cannot post on the Craps Forum without mentioning that New Mexico has live $3 Craps tables. I will be in Santa Fe next month at the Hilton Resort and Casino. Hope to find $3 Craps or an INTERBLOCK craps machine.
     
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  2. Settingcanthurt, Mar 19, 2018

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    Just a little more nostalgia. Back in 76 My wife and I took a long circle run to the Canyon and while there took the turnoff to Lees Ferry, which was actually a wooden stick sign like ya see in the movies. We were driving thru the Navajo Res. I new this as where a lot of friends put in their boats here to fish for rainbow trout. Ten to twenty pound were common. It took balls to boat around in those narrows and usually your boat would get all kinds of beat up. Broken welds were the most common with aluminum and SSteal.
    This is probably where you will be going. Back then there were no parking lots. People just pulled over and pitched their sun shades and tents or whatever. Zero services. There are two Adobe shacks there, if they are still there. Probably are. Back then we both were curious and walked in them and explored them both. The one had a old primitive piece of furniture and parts of beds and stunk like urine. The second one had a couple of intact pieces maybe a dresser or a table as well as a sleeping frame. In the middle of the floor in this one was the biggest pile of Guano I had ever seen. It was at least 3 feet high, to a point and based at about 4 feet. Mostly it was untouched as were the contents. Fast forward to 92 we took the kids to Lees Ferry on the way to the north rim. the structures were closed up with steel bars. The Guano was gone.Parking lots were built the rafters were lined up to disembark. This is just a mile or so from the dam. The Dam water lever was almost to the top in Lk Powell.
    You can take the dam tour. Glen Canyon is the largest dam in the US. Really impressive. While there trip to the main lake launching area and see if you can still rent a boat or houseboat.
     
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  3. von duck, Mar 19, 2018

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    Why not the Aruze bubble? :D
     
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  4. Settingcanthurt, Mar 19, 2018

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    I will do you one better edice since you are up there.

    A very little known lake which is a state park. Lyman lake. I caught a 4 pound Walleye trolling a red & white daredevil. And there are Northers in the lake. My sons pic is / was in the bait shop holding the fish. 1985/86. Let me know if you spot it....
     
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  5. eDiceGuy, Mar 19, 2018

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    Talk about nostalgia. I grew up in MN when Northerns and Walleyes were easy pickings and you could still eat the fish caught in Lake Calhoun (one of the lakes in Minneapolis). Now they warn you not to swim there.

    We used to do father/son fishing trips to Lake Kabetogama in the Boundary Waters. I never caught anything. My wife's family were all year fisherman. Have lake homes and ice houses. Was just there for a wedding in February. Old fishermen never die, they just get married in an ice house in MN in February.
     
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  6. Settingcanthurt, Mar 19, 2018

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    Ya just gotta love it. I live in White Bear. Two minutes to the North end of the lake. By foot...
    Gods country.;) Yes i walk on water....
     
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  7. AzDice, Mar 20, 2018

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    Was Lee's Ferry a barbless hook lake when you went there. I'm not sure if it still is. Lake Mary near flagstaff had some good walleye fishing. Lake Mary has had it's ups and downs because of some winters with small amounts of snow and rainfall.
     
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  8. yacraps, Mar 21, 2018

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    One summer in the early 70s I worked at a lake resort called Shady Beach it was on lake called Big Stone...one side of the lake was South Dakota, and the other side was Minnesota...great people had a lot of fun and got paid for it :)
     
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  9. Settingcanthurt, Mar 23, 2018

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    Lees ferry is not a lake. It is the Colorado river crossing on a small flat shoreline area where the river slows a bit. Lee was a Mormon who settled there and ran a Ferry crossing in 1800,s.
    Do not remember barbless hooks there at all. Very tough place to fish by any means. River moves strong 100 yards in each direction. What I know today I would fish it differently. We used to climb the rocks and drop a like under the rock shelf. Complete waste of time. I might go upstream with a large shiner, toss it upstream unweighted as much as possible and lit it drift natural keeping the line off the water as much as possible. There may be restrictions on live bait.
     
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  10. Settingcanthurt, Mar 23, 2018

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    Duck hunting lake too. Have a story bout two farmers who,s property lines met there at the lake they were both Duck hunting same morning. They simultaneously fired on one duck which dropped near shore between em. Both claiming the duck they chose to settle the argument.
    Mn Farmer says lets have a ball kicking contest.
    SD Farmer agrees and lets the Mn farmer go first. Mn farmer takes a couple steps and places his boot square up between the legs of the SD farmer.
    The SD farmer loses his breath and collapses, balled up for 5 minutes on the ground.
    He stumbles to his feet and says "OK now it's my turn.

    MN farmer looks at him all ready to repay and says "Naw, You can keep the duck,,,,,,
     
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  11. yacraps, Mar 23, 2018

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    LOL...
     
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  12. RightMath, Apr 3, 2018

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    The math for beating gambling is here. I know. I invented it/discovered it. Sadly thought I can not decide to give it away.
    I have been watching. Like every other discovery. Several people discover the same thing very close to simultaneously.
    Just read a post where some gambler believes everyone who writes a book on gambling should comp him a copy. Was glad to see the authors reply was. Buddy you and Hillary are going to die before I comp either of you a copy. Just for laughs. Does anyone know how to make money selling a gambling system? The proverbial million dollars would be nice.
     
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  13. Bases loaded, Apr 3, 2018

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    You're taunting Von Duck to get a response?

    You must be new. He works on commission not salary.
     
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  14. twodicebilly, Apr 3, 2018

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    yacraps

    heading for Big Stone in may

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  15. yacraps, Apr 3, 2018

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    Wish I could meet you there,are there any casinos around the lake area that you know of :)
     
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  16. RightMath, Apr 4, 2018

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    Totally agree with you. But, New discoveries prevail.
    Every bet on the Craps table has the same negative odds.
    Bet the six, the eight, ten, the four, Hell bet them all. Come, Don"t Come.
    Every bet on the Craps table has the same negative odds.
    You are right. Find a system. Unfortunately until now the best/worst system
    was 'how you feel." There is a mathematical way to win at gambling.
    I call it "Mikes Ladder" I could use it to make money, and I have.
    I keep refining the way I want to distribute my system.
    If I knew how many people would actually pay me 1% of their
    winnings. I would be happy to give my system to them for Free.
    Simply because selling it would never happen. To much casino crap out there.
    This is my latest idea. Get about 5000 people to agree to donate 1% of their winnings.
    I would like to have a partner. Who knows how to do internet stuff. Enough for now. Thanks
     
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  17. eDiceGuy, Apr 4, 2018

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    RightMath. Here is an idea.

    Partner with someone who has a Craps software application (or can create one). Sell it as an app for smartphones and tablets (also desktops). Price it around $3 to $10 dollars. Include your strategy with the base price. Also, allow customers to modify yours or test their own. Charge for upgrades, provide free fixes.

    Checkout some of the free Craps apps out there now and see just how crappy they are (pun intended). Build a better mousetrap.

    Fyi, I have spent about $20 on Craps apps and they all are lacking in usability (ie missing bet types, no ease of use, incorrect layout, etc). In other words build a better mousetrap.

    Good luck.
     
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  18. DeMango, Apr 4, 2018

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    Win Craps Pro is your friend.
     
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  19. eDiceGuy, Apr 4, 2018

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    Demango, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I am an Apple purist. Do not intend to add a Windows emulator to my iMac. Thru out all my Windows laptops when I retired.

    A quick internet search says WinCraps will not be made available to Apple devices. Seems rather shortsighted on their part.

    I still think a smartphone or tablet app is the way to go. Build that better mouse trap and sell it for less.
     
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  20. DeMango, Apr 4, 2018

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    Thanks for the Apple update on WinCraps. Solidified my decision to always keep a Win product in the house for Excell, Quiken and now other programs that are unmacable.
     
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