" Military March" or " Left Right"

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  1. von duck, Jul 10, 2017

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    The two times I've gotten it to the last number for $500 I've been fortunate and it has hit. Each time I contemplate if I should just pull it all down but figure "what the hell" this is why I'm here. I do call my bets off after so many rolls without a number hitting so maybe that can save some when you get to that point.
     
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  3. TotalPackage, Jul 10, 2017

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    I use this variation which doesnt win as much but has more action.
    1-Buy 4 and 10 for $25
    2-If 4 or 10 hit move both to 5 and 9 for $50 each (drop $2)
    3-If 5 or 9 hit move to 6 and 8 for $60 each (keep $50)
    4-If 6 or 8 hit stay; increase both to $90 each (keep $10)
    5-If 6 or 8 hit move to 5 and 9 for $150 each (drop $15)
    6-if 5 or 9 hit move to 4 and 10 for $250 each (drop $10)

    There are times when you get past stage 3; lose and basically break even.
    There are times when you get to stage 4 or 5 and stay inside
    There are times when you get to stage 6 and take the money
    I only made it all the way once because I usually stay inside if I get there.
     
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  4. von duck, Jul 10, 2017

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  5. Night Attack, Jul 10, 2017

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    Over what time frame would you say you've got to the final number? Just trying to establish the frequency of the event happening.
     
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    First time was NY/NY May 2016. Second time Caesars In AC Jan-Feb of this year. I've been doing this bet for about two years now. I play anywhere from 1 to 2 times a month.
     
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    This sounds like a good variation but I wouldn't be too comfortable putting out $52 in buying the 4 and 10 right off the bat.
     
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  8. Night Attack, Jul 12, 2017

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    Thanks for that. Of course there are variables as well like how many times you make such a wager per visit but at least we have a ballpark figure. Continued success and hopefully you get the hat trick soon.
     
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  9. von duck, Jul 12, 2017

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  10. Night Attack, Jul 18, 2017

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    I went to the casino on Sunday past and to cut a long story short, I got slammed. A couple of times I tried the army march and got doubly slammed. Not even a sniff. As I got behind very early that was the end of the army march for that day.

    So I have been thinking of my own variation and have come up with something that is suitable for me and I will share in case it suits someone else as well. Essentially I will be working the inside numbers because a week ago when I stumbled at the final hurdle with a $500 four, those inside numbers actually raced through the army march progression. As my local joint is a $10 minimum I will use that as a betting unit in the example.

    1. Place 5 and 9 for $10 each ($20 at risk)
    2. If say the 5 hits, parlay and all goes to the 6 for $24. Bring the 9 down. ($10 at risk).
    3. If the 6 hits, full press and all goes to the 8 for $48 (4 the Kembla and $6 at risk).
    4. If the 8 hits, all goes to the 9 for $100 (4 the Kembla and $2 at risk).
    5. If the 9 hits, that's $240 and down with a net of $238.

    But at point # 5 above I now give you options because we all have different comfort levels, finances, reasons we play etc...
    I shall continue on the next post as I know many do not like long posts.

    FYI, Kembla is short for Kembla Grange, a town about 90 mins drive south of Sydney. Most people know of it as it has a regional race track venue. And Kembla Grange is Aussie rhyming slang for 'change'. So down this way you may hear craps dealers say, 6 looks like 24, two the Kembla, if you had a $12 six and you asked for a full press once it hit.
     
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  11. Night Attack, Jul 18, 2017

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    Now I didn't ride all over hell's creation drippin' blood over half of Missouri to stop at point # 5 and unless my chip rack states otherwise I will move on.

    Option # 1.

    Rinse and repeat at either the same bet or an increased opening bet.

    Option # 2.

    After your $100 nine hits per point # 5 in the previous post,

    6. All goes to the 8 for $240.
    7. If the 8 hits, then full press and all goes to the 6 for $480 (40 the Kembla and $38 profit).
    8. If the 6 hits then all down for $1040 and $1078 profit.

    I suppose you can alternate the 8 or 6 in the progression or double up on either if you see the shooter making a particular number more than the other. It's a choice you need to make and you will have to live with it.

    Option # 3.

    After your $100 nine hits per point # 5 in the previous post,

    6a. Make the 6/8 look like $120 each.
    7a. Keep collecting as many $140 payouts as you feel comfortable and remember to take them down just before the 7 shows.


    I guess there are a multitude of options you can take at any point but I feel it is a reasonable play and I hope to hear of at least a half a dozen success stories before the year is out otherwise put me in the f...ing bathroom as well.
     
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  12. von duck, Jul 18, 2017

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  13. Night Attack, Jul 23, 2017

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    Went in for a session today and to try out this rehashed army march of mine. From the start I was placing the 5/9 for $10 each and parlaying to the 6/8 from whichever end of the box numbers hit and took the other one down per my previous post # 70.

    Probably in less than a half an hour I was down $120 of my $200 buy in. Nothing doing. Then something started to get going and I went from a $10 five, to $24 the six to $48 the eight and to $100 the nine. By that time I had decided if the nine hit I had to take it all down since I was well behind in my chip stack, the decision was basically made for me. Very quickly the nine hit and I was down with a nice little profit to boot. Now of course the next series in the progression was to come back to the eight for $240 then the six for $480 then all down and typically I don't want to see the hand play out but I stayed and watched and sure enough the eight hit followed by the six. Arrrrrrrrr!!!

    So why did I stay? Because I was the damn shooter!

    But my hopes not totally dashed I played on to try again since I was now in front but all the pso's started showing left, right and centre and my profit quickly evaporated. Dipped back into my original stash and still nothing doing and I was all over the place by starting with $44 across to get the first hit quicker and then take the other three down. That went nicely the first couple of times till a couple of pso's wiped me out for $88 in short order. Then I was starting with 6/8's an sticking with them since they were hitting and I even added a collect in between the army march progression when I hit at a $24 place bet.

    I was all over the shop and had lost the plot and feel rather fortunate to have walked out of there only a Jackson lighter than what I walked in. There were a lot of distractions today but my bark was obviously worse than my bite. I shall "endeavour to persevere" as my man Lone Watie said.
     
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  14. KokomoJoe4, Jul 23, 2017

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    It is all in the timing.

    Of course this is easy to say after experiencing the results you describe, but it is common sense that the "right time" to make the larger and larger bets is when you have just experienced the consecutive winners.

    If you lose, you are losing money which had been just pushed to you from the bank, but of course the thought and the hope is to win.

    Besides the big wins (when they come), the best thing about this approach to one's play is that it leaves NO doubt as to the best time to pick up your things and go home - keep your chin up and play until the loser shows.

    One reason I prefer the line bet to the place is because at times, but only with the line bet, you will see the loser before the placement of your entire bet. This is where the come out losers show great timing.
     
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  15. Night Attack, Jul 23, 2017

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    Having had time for the post mortem now as it nears the end of the day here, and hopefully I have learnt a thing or two after today, it is clear I need to stay ahead if i really want a genuine shot of pulling down that dime. It is just the type of player I am.

    So I think a same bet is a good idea after hitting the first place bet for $24 which should be the second bet in the sequence, and hopefully it can keep me treading water for a little bit longer.

    But at this point I actually have more faith in the system than I have in myself trying to execute it. Perhaps with the next nut clipping i may learn something more that will help my cause.
     
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  16. von duck, Jul 23, 2017

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    Interesting that they have "dimes" down under, seems like they would call it a " tenpney" or some thing to that effect. Tom, I mean Knight attach.
     
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  17. Night Attack, Jul 23, 2017

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    Well if it isn't my feathered and fiendish friend the Penguin.
    Actually we do not have dimes down under nor any of those other things you mentioned, at least not any more. I was in fact referring to a 'dime' as it equates to $1000 in gambling terminology. Tom would know that as would TT123. You see it is I, Rumplestilskin, who has returned as promised to claim your first born. Hahaha, hahaha, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha..............................
     
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  18. Night Attack, Jul 30, 2017

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    It almost pains me to pen these words together regarding today's trip report. If you are up to date on this thread you'll know I'm working toward nailing a bastardised version of the military march, hopefully six numbers for a dime or 4 numbers for close to $250 if I am behind in play.

    Well this afternoon was dreadful. I could not even get past the second number in the sequence and if not for collecting a same bet after the first parlay I would have long been on my way home and none of the following would have occurred.

    As it happens I was leaving the table a lot of the time to attend to some other matters so for about nearly three hours all I had was one roll that was a bust. But as it was approaching time to call it quits and lick my wounds I was down about $100, being half my buy in, so that decision to call same bet after the first parlay kept me in the game.

    I figured I'd just wait for my roll as it was not far off and a couple if pso's made me wish I had walked already. Anyway I get the dice and pull off a good 25 roll hand at least, with hardly any garbage numbers and nearly half of them were 6/8's. Since I am a closet DI ( I never practice btw) and I felt focussed, I figured I'd abandon the march and press collect on the 6/8 which is what I was setting for. By the end of it I had clawed back all but $7 of my buy in but figured I'd wait one more shooter to see if I can get in front. 3 rolls later I turned -$7 into -$31. Nice going I said to myself and finally left.

    You see it's not the -$31 that bothers me it's the fact I f...ing bet the military march on every damned shooter for nearly 3 hours and slowly got ground down, and on the final shoot being myself, I abandon it. You know by now I made those six numbers but really would have pulled it down after the 4th since I was behind, but even that would have put me ahead for the day and it would have been a satisfactory fight that I would have won on a points decision. But no, I lose money on every other schmuck and then don't back myself. I mentioned previously that I have less faith in myself to actually execute the goal more than anything else and today I proved it to myself again.

    I'm not half a bad shooter when I'm focussed and not talking about the football game or other bullshit during play and if I only had a strategy to go with it, i wouldn't be a second rate talent, if I may borrow that term.

    On a side note, shortly into my roll I notice someone had a $100 hard six. Next roll, six HARD! $950 is the payout here, and the guy pulls it down for $1050 all up and I see he has a bit of a grin on his face like the cat who swallowed the canary. As I had seen him earlier in the afternoon I figured he was glad to get most of, if not all his money back on that one roll. Good for him as he's now discussing it with the player next to him down the other end of a busy table. Next thing you hear is a collective OHHHHHH, as the hard six comes straight back right under his nose. Needless to say that smile was wiped straight off his face.

    Live and learn my friends, live and learn.
     
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  19. basicstrategy777, Jul 30, 2017

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  20. KokomoJoe4, Jul 30, 2017

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    The march SEEMS as if it should not be a difficult proposition. How difficult is it to see different box numbers roll?

    The problem is not so much that. The problem is that is it a little more difficult to hit the single number you are on.

    After a few tries at this myself, I won't go near it again. I can't even manage the first fricking hit, let alone multiple ones.

    -31 keep most of your funds in your pocket NA.

    BTW, I didn't know you were a closet DI. I like the term, but will consider you a so-called closet DI. ;)
     
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