Mechanical Roulette dream come true

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  1. siik2nr, Dec 22, 2016

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    Back in 2005-2006, many of the local casinos had the mechanical roulette wheel with digital betting screen. This was not the big heavy wheel of todays machines, but the much lighter, less precision wheel with a lighter plastic ball.
    Roulette was a favorite game of mine and I did a lot of reading on the subject. The concept of a bias wheel came to mind when playing with an automated mechanical wheel. Not that the wheel was bias, but that the wheel in order to NOT be bias, needed to be able to hit all positions on its wheel within a certain amount of spins. If after a 1000 spins it never hit a certain number, then the wheel would be considered bias and knowing that info would be an advantage to the players.
    So I sat down one Saturday and simply tracked every number the wheel hit to determine how many spins did it take for the wheel to hit every position on the wheel once. The first time I did this, it took about 3 hours 45 minutes to finally hit the last position that I had been tracking that it had not hit. Which equated to 285 spins of the wheel. When the wheel finally hit the last number that I had been tracking, I had $5 on it.
    I sat at that wheel another 4 hours to "cycle" the wheel again and to my amazement, after 3:45 minutes and 286 spins it hit the last number I was tracking that it had not hit. At that time I had $10 on it.
    I sat at that wheel another 4 hours and once again, 3:50 minutes and 288 spins it hit the last number and I had $20 on it.
    Out of time and hungry, I sat for once last session and convinced I had cracked the code on this machine, I was all in. I waited another 3:45 minutes, 285 spins and on the 285th spin I placed $100 on the final number........ it missed. 286th spin I bet another $100....... it missed. I was sweating. What could be wrong? How could this not work?.......287th spin I bet another $100 and it HIT!.... OMG! the machine locked up and I won $3500 plus my $100 wager. Machine locked up and I was paid jackpot and signed the tax form.
    Came back 3 times that week and every time I was able to win the jackpot. Started receiving large COMPS and collected a lot of tax receipts. As I lay in my bed stressing my taxes for the year, I realized, why bet $100 on the final number and hit jackpots, lock the machine and sign tax forms?... I decided to play late night and when the final number was closing in on 285 spins, I put money into both machines next to me and placed a $30 dollar bet on the final number, but on all 3 machines. The result was over a $1000 payout on 3 machines, with no jackpot, no tax forms and no locked up machines. Was a dream come true.
    I continued this for 3 months at 3 different casinos that had the same roulette wheel and accumulated over $30,000 in profits. I had to leave for a year due to work, and when I came back, all the machines had been switched out with the newer modern roulette wheels that have an infinite randomization code that cannot be cracked.
    This was a once in a lifetime experience that I will never forget and was the starting point of my “Advantage Player” mentality. Just thought I would share.
     
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  2. Edward-ky, Dec 22, 2016

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    I couldn't sit at roulette for that long. Now a craps table that is a different story.
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Dec 22, 2016

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    Yea Edward, I'd be asleep after 20 spins, but those are some sweet wins. 10 grand a month sitting a casino. Too bad siik2nr is a worker and not a degenerate gambler, he might have cleaned them out for six figures.
     
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  4. Liman

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    im surprised at only a 35 to one bet you had to fill out tax forms.
    I believe the tax form min here is winning 600 to 1
     
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  5. Twelve4s, Dec 23, 2016

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    Is it because he was playing a machine? Does it fall under slot payout rules?
     
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  6. Pressit, Dec 23, 2016

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    That is a good story illustrating how discipline can pay off.

    Stories are always better when you hear someone won!
     
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  7. James Hall, Dec 23, 2016

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    great post
     
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  8. Liman

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    Im guessing different states, different laws.

    Ive cashed out tickets well over 5 K on bubble here, not that often, but its happened, and Ive seen players who brag cash out huge tickets, not sure how it works over 10 G, but Ive never had to submit any tax forms from casino.
    People buy in at bubbles or live tables or roulette tables for thousands every day, no one is filling out tax forms when cashing in....
    it has to be the state and the machine laws.

    if I was certain the machine was going to hit a number on or near the 285th spin, I would be betting table max every time.
     
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  9. siik2nr, Dec 23, 2016

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    CA law is you can win acculated wins without tax. However a single hit on a video machine over $1200 is considered a "jackpot" and is paid by attendant with forms. Same for Bingo, which is why many of the games pay $1,199 cash.

    It was an amazing run and an amazing high winning like that.
     
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  10. Liman

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    wow, that really sucks.

    I get the locking the machine and getting an attendant to pay, but taxes, really really eats dirt.

    so it doesn't matter what your bet is, if the machine pays 1200 or more there are taxes on that.
     
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