Loaded Dice

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  1. 3aces

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    I know this is just asking to get your hands broken in a casino, but these loaded dice can be very funny when used on a buddy at home. Has anybody here pulled a prank on their friends with these dice before?
     
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  2. blackjack, Jan 21, 2009

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    I would not even know where to get something like that. I am sure that you could have some fun with them, but you better watch what you do with them, some people don't take these kinds of jokes likely.
     
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  3. Ironwig, Jan 11, 2010

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    im sure you can find them in any magic store
    but yea,,,, stay as far away from the casino with htese
    you will end up in the basement of the casino bleeding out your ears from the beating youll get lol
    but the casino use sticks of dice that have the same numbers on them
    thats when a dice rolls of the table the pit boss must look at them and verify they are the same dice
    but yea, i bought them once and played at my friends house, we picked a corner and i took all his money then i gave it back once
    i showed him why he couldnt beat me
    lol
     
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  4. eagleeye2, Sep 18, 2017

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    3aces,

    Most here have likely been Victims of ""Loaded Dice"", without even realizing it and at a Casino near you!

    Pressure to increase $$$ Take at Casino's; leads to use of Shady (unbalanced) Dice being employed, on Occasion in Casino's.

    Note the Color of Dice in Play, as in my experience, Dark Red Colored Dice have the Highest Likelihood of being Unbalanced; to an extent that they will Produce more (7's) when thrown on a CRAPS Table. One can evaluate for this, but it will take a half hour or more of counts @ any one table.

    Avoiding CRAPS play when Dark Red Colored Dice are in use, is a simple move to minimize the risk of playing when Casino's are employing ""Unbalanced Dice"".

    Here's one that I have NOT seen previously. Recently, I was Observing Dice @ a Casino where I have Counted Dice Down previously, (when Dark Red dice were in Play) & established to my satisfaction that these Dice were in fact ""Unbalanced Dice""; I observed THREE Dice Colors employed, one Color at each of the three tables open, yes a different Color at each table, wow.

    Now, it dose not take a Rocket Scientist to establish that this Casino was likely in process of measuring TAKE Vs Dice Color. No, no Dark Red Colored Dice were in play, but Amber, Lite Purple & Green Dice were in play, one Color @ each Open Table. I have seen Dark Red Colored dice in Play @ all open Tables at this Casino previously, so a "Base Line" has been established there.

    My advice, the next time you are in a Casino, make note of the Color of the Dice in Play & act accordingly.

    eagleeye2
     
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  5. von duck, Sep 18, 2017

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    Hey EE2, I once saw a set of dice in play at a casino, that had rounded corners, just like bubble dice, and they were a rust brown color, but not translucent, they were opaque. This was in the early 90s at the Gold Strike, in Jean, where the prison is. Another anomaly, they were not using a box man.
     
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  6. Settingcanthurt, Sep 18, 2017

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    Hey Buddie. Another bad session???
    Jan 2010? Really? LOL!!!!
     
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    Technology has changed since then man, we have been long overdue an update, thank you EE2.:cool:.I am personally going to take a color matching chart with me on my next casino visit, and I'm sure everybody else will too.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Sep 18, 2017

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    Just wait until ya play with the Dark Blue Dice!
     
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  9. von duck, Sep 18, 2017

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    How, dark?:cool:.
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Sep 18, 2017

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    The casino that I'm batting 940 at uses dark blue dice. lol. Only one losing session there out of at least 15 trips.

    If I ran a casino with multiple tables I'd insist on different colored dice for each table considering the employee talent pool situation.

    I have the worst results with amber dice.
     
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  11. TDVegas, Sep 18, 2017

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    He's responding to a guy who was last seen here January 20, 2009....?
    LOL..
     
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  12. gargoil, Sep 18, 2017

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    Welcome back Harley to the forum. I hope you can remind some of us again why the faces of dice equal seven.
     
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  13. Mssthis1, Sep 18, 2017

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    They never slip "Saturday night Dice" into the bubble machine. One more reason to play the bubble over a live game.
     
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  14. Settingcanthurt, Sep 18, 2017

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    Glad to not be the only one here to resurrect.
    You and I have a wager. One I am now conceding to. You were right. No indictment. Jacob gets a beer. Should things change. He gets one from you. win win.
     
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    I completely forgot about that one. Sure.
     
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  16. DeMango, Sep 18, 2017

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    It's the only thing Harley can blame on for losing: Loaded Dice. Or as the Bible says: " Like a dog returning to it's vomit....."
     
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    not only using bad dice, I heard once the casinos are spiking beverages served with just enough to make everyone lose their inhibitions and play like they don't care. The buffets are doing it also, so when everyone thinks those comped buffet vouchers are great, they are really drugging you so youll leave the buffet and go drop the rent money.
    subliminal messages are rampant also.
    and I heard they are bringing back coolers, voodoo high priestess' , and special dogs trained in Germany and hungary that can sniff out any talented DI shooter.

    and something none of you know about, but I had the pleasure of meeting a contractor, a very successful contractor who designs casinos, and he told me all the floors in the casino are tilted ever so slightly, less than a degree, towards the gaming areas, so it naturally feels easier to enter the casino because its more downhill, but leaving is a degree difference uphill, more tiring, tending to make people just stay put.

    you people have no idea what depths the casinos go to to get your money. forget about house edge, that's just to pay for the withholding taxes, they really get you on everything and everywhere.

    its all the little things, like using cheap cola syrup instead of a branded name.
    using imported fruits from south America instead of American fruit.
    linens with only 150 thread count instead of the hotel industry standard of 350 thread count.
    no one even sees this stuff.
    every cup of coffee you purchase to go usually comes in a standard 12 oz size.
    the casino has the cups labeled 12 0z, but they are really 11.85 ounces. anywhere and everywhere, nothing is sacred to the casinos.

    Just try to get a sweet N Low sugar substitute in any casino, its always just a pink package.

    casinos are shrewd operators.

    I don't know why some of you think its only bad dice....why should they stop there.

    Ive had to get medical treatment for my rectal area after staying in a casino hotel for 3 straight days using the sandpaper they call toilet paper. nothing is sacred to them. anywhere and everywhere they can, they will.
     
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  18. HornHighBLEVE, Sep 18, 2017

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    ^BWAAAAHAHAHA!
     
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  19. eagleeye2, Sep 18, 2017

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    Settingcan'thurt,

    You have a Short Memory, I have posted this several times:

    ELEMENTARY METHOD TO ESTABLISH FAIR or BIASED DICE

    I am starting a New Thread titled "ELEMENTARY METHOD TO ESTABLISH FAIR or BIASED DICE", to prevent B.S. like that TDV & others post here on the subject of ""Biased Dice use in Casino's""!

    Yes, I have published this several times before, but it simply gets buried.

    For those that want to LEARN, rather than accept current or past Casino Employee's B.S., as posted by the Casino Brain Trust, on this thread, read on!

    Typical LIE from 7uwin, TDV, etc. ""You claim to be able to detect Dice bias by logging rolls and determining that 7 is showing more than 1 in 6 rolls.

    I have NEVER posted, nor insinuated the above, as the LIAR 7uwin Posts!

    Here's What I have Stated:

    First: Be EXTREMELY CAREFULL of Very DARK RED DICE, as they have the highest likelyhood of being BIASED in favor of the Casino.

    Second: For starters, TWO dice make up the # shot, when playing CRAPS, which 7uwin attempts to ignore.

    One must ask, "Why Complicate analysis by dealing with the SUM of combinations of #'s, on TWO DICE, that add to 7, like 7uwin; LIES about me doing!

    Here's the mathematical way to rapidly detect Biased Dice in Play, in an actual Casino!

    1) Reduce things to the simplest mode.

    You can accomplish this by ignoring the SUM of # Combinations adding to 7's & focusing on the individual #'s. As 6~1 Bias has been the most prevalent Bias to date (a shift to 4~3 Bias appears to protect the Casino more) I will focus on it, but any other BIAS uses the same LOGIC presented below!

    Now, any # appears on a FAIR Die EXACTLY 1 in 6 throws, two dice in PLAY, any # appears on a set of FAIR Dice 1 in 3 throws & that is the KEY!

    You simply observe (No need to log on paper) the total # of 1's & 6's (on both dice) Vs # of throws. I mentally note this as follows ~ # Low # & # High # Vs # of rolls by a player. Noting that each player chooses from 5 DICE, all of which may not be Biased, (I typically feel that a 3 Biased Vs 2 Fair dice are employed), & therefore with every NEW Shooter, you must start any count over, due to dice change.

    For a single shooter & the same Dice, This could hypothetically proceed as follows:
    NOTE: Layout is ~ # 1'S ~ # 6'S ~ # Throws

    1, 0, 1
    1, 0, 2
    3, 0, 3
    3, 1, 4
    4, 1, 5
    4, 1, 6
    4, 1, 7
    5, 1, 8
    5, 1, 9

    Now, what would we have here?

    Well, we observed 5 1's in 9 throws of the Dice, when FAIR dice would have produced around 3 1's. The 5 1's observed, should have taken about 5 * 3 or 15 rolls of the dice, not 9.

    Prognosis, Highly Likely that 1~6 Biased Dice are in Play, with the above!

    Should your Total Count of any single # approach the Magic # of 3 Times the # of rolls, the Dice in Play are likely Fair for that #.

    The exact same technique can be used for; 3~4 & 2~5 Biased dice.

    One key to firmly establishing Dice Conditions, is the length of the roll. When you see numerous short rolls, you have little confidence in the Count, (although numerous short rolls are a sign of a COLD Table, or worse) as the Stick Man passes out 5 dice to each new shooter & you do not know the composition of those 5 Dice, as to Biased or Balanced.

    When you get 8 or more rolls, (with the same Dice), the Count begins to become meaningful. Add several decent rolls & your decision should be easy.

    When generating your Counts, it's best to make a note of the Dice Combination that produced the 7-Out for each shooter. Should you see say three out of four 7-Outs as 3-4, it's advisable to begin a Count of 3's & 4's Vs # of Rolls.

    And YES, those folks that do not observe Dice in action, prior to investing their Hard Earned $$$ @ a Craps table Are Considered to be amateur CRAPS Players.

    eagleeye2
     
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    Mssthis11,

    That's rather strange as I have Never found Unbalanced Dice in any Casino employing Amber Dice, by using the count down technique.

    eagleeye2
     
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