listen to the stick!

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  1. eagleeye2, Apr 15, 2019

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    Midnight,

    Think LOGICALLY, DUH!!!

    To WIN @ CRAPS, it's not necessary to WIN every throw, just to throw is such a way that FEWER than the statistical # of (7's) appear; along with with Some $$$ BET on those throws!

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  2. Mssthis1, Apr 15, 2019

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    Since I'm overdue for long rolls I've been practicing less. I don't want to waste a long roll on the practice table where it pays nooothing. That is playing to lose less at it's finest.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Apr 15, 2019

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    Yes. Absolutely. Speaking of "statistics"...Couple of days ago. When was the last time James Hall rolled 3 hard 10's followed by FIVE 6's?

    My guess....never.

    Players play. Talkers talk.

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  4. TDVegas, Apr 15, 2019

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    I'm not sure how this would apply to SRR...long term SRR. When Billy had stated that his SRR "over time" was 7.92, goat cabin had done some calculations that had essentially indicated a key to the vault and a money printing press.

    I forgot exactly....maybe 1,000 sessions where 900 of them brought forth a mean profit of close to $500 with a starting $200 bankroll.

    In this instance....since a long term calculation has already been done, would the player merely assume "good to go" out of the gate and there is no establishment of when it's time to bet or press?...you merely repeat the same bet thruout the session? I believe that was the crux of his simulation.

    Lot of questions. I'm not sure the answers are cut and dry.

    Now, stupid me assumed that "7.92 over time" meant more than a session or 2. Apparently it doesn't, so it might not be worth the debate but obviously the calculation can be done for 7.0, 6.9, 6.8....so on.
     
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  5. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    That would be a pretty good guess but probably not totally accurate.
    I probably at some point have thrown 3 hard 10s but that would
    be a very rare occasion because I don't go after those.
    Now the hard 6s and hard 8s is another matter entirely
    because I do make an effort to make those happen.
     
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  6. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    Now five 6s happens quite frequently and of course that would be
    a profit of over $1100 on that number alone from a $10 bet
    that's that , "POWER of DUPLICATION" we talk frequently about.
    The big difference here
    It happening or
    Making it happen.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Apr 15, 2019

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    How dumb. “Quite frequently”. LOL.

    Each day we get reminded how out of touch with reality you are and why you should be looked at as nothing more than a court jester. Forum jester.

    1 in 7,700.
     
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  8. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    We are talking about two different things.
    You might be talking about 5 sixes in a row ,
    while I am talking about a trend of 5 in a session ,
    T


    hat does in fact occur quite frequently. The only
    thing DUMB here is your reluctance to accept the fact
    that trends exist then your refusal to take advantage of them.


    A statement like this from a guy who lives 6 minutes by bicycle from his
    favorite casino and still has not figured out a way to put a win together.

    TDVegas , you try so hard in all the wrong ways , bad mouthing
    and insulting me and other players who win does not
    make your game appear stronger it simply makes you
    look weak and needy.
    If you would spend just a bit of time trying to learn to win
    and less time insulting people with whom you disagree
    you could probably win one every now and then.
    The other positive effect would be to get you off the damned
    bubble craps"PLAYING at CRAPS" and on the table . "PLAYING CRAPS.
    with the MEN.


    That number has to do with the random game only and means
    nothing outside that sphere of influence.
    All that changes as skill levels increase.

    Where your disconnect occurs and the reason for so much animosity
    on you part has everything to do with your opinions relating to Craps.
    You hold a very strong opinion that there is no skill in craps therefore
    you poses no skill . You wake up everyday with that realization and as
    a consequence you know that with no skill you have nothing to improve.
    Because you have no skill there is no way to practice to improve .
    You for all intents and purposes are as good at the game as you will ever be.

    The results you have always gotten is as good as it gets , it will never
    be better. , "You will always get what you have always gotten".
    No better no worse and there is nothing you can do about it.
    IT MUST TRULY SUCK having this to deal with going forward.
     
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  9. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    You're not sure , you don't know but you are sure as hell
    not going to let that stop you from posting an insulting remark or two.
     
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  10. tabletop123, Apr 15, 2019

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    Yep.....now JAMES is Sniping numbers. Lol

    Just think.....if you could hit the number 6 QUITE frequently, WHY would you dilute THAT 6 hits on the number six by betting the other 5 numbers? Lol

    However, you cannot ridicule, or chastise James for his posts, because.....AFTER ALL......everyone on this forum SHOULD know by NOW how delusional James is.

    I no longer atempt to debate Jame's posts. I simply laugh, & CONTINUE onto the next post.
     
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  11. tabletop123, Apr 15, 2019

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    Five hits in a row, ( Catching lightning in a bottle) or five hits in the same number during a session/hand occuring quite frequently is STILL a monumental feat.

    We are ASSUMING that a session is ONE hand being tossed. However, if a session entails you standing at a table, & tossing Six 6's over a course of more than ONE hand?..,Then......CARRY ON!!!
     
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  12. TDVegas, Apr 15, 2019

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    No question what happened with five 6's in a row is monumental. Just tossing a 6 five times is expected to happen in just 36 rolls. About 4 hands will do it.

    BFD. That's what the Mesa guy is hanging his hat on? Pfffft. Chunker.

    No wonder this guy is buried in a dark room, typing furiously instead of in Laughlin with the Wisconsin walleye....making a vault assault.

    Making $1,100 off a starting minimal bet on five 6's assumes a SRR of 36. And Rick was complaining about MP and his 28 SRR??!! The MP has nuthin on the court jester from Arizona. He can also snipe 7's on come out to lower the SRR. LOL.

    Shit, I was razzing Billy on a 8.2 SRR. My apologies. Wrong battle.
     
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  13. TDVegas, Apr 15, 2019

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    No question. As he's stated, this is a frequent occurrence. Ok, so let's shit can the 1 time in 7,700 because anyone knows this would NOT be considered frequent. Let's say he can knock off five 6's in "triple time" the randie and accomplish it in 12 rolls.

    So now, instead of concentrating the entire bankroll on the 6....he's goofing around by putting money on the other five box numbers.
     
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  14. HornHiYo, Apr 15, 2019

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    His SRR (Shit to Reality Ratio) is sky high.
     
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  15. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    For a long time I thought you were just acting like you
    had no understanding then I thought you were just trying
    to remain popular with the group of insiders then I realized
    you really don't understand about collecting more than one
    or two bets in a 20 or 30 roll hand.
    You would think hanging around with G the guy who has won
    more than $180,000 in 15 months you would have some inclination
    about how the game works but ALAS.
    You can't debate James' post you have neither the inclination nor
    the skill. I know you are able to TALK ABOUT Linaway's stuff
    and you know enough about DI to fake a conversation.
    and I am sure that with the many hours you have spent in
    the casinos with G you might even be able to talk a little
    about live action.

    I remember from a couple years ago when you said
    "I am more accurate with my throw than anyone
    hell I can knock over a stack of nickles from stick left one"
    You talk a good game but discussion with James would be so far
    out of your league it would boggle the imagination.
    Nah you are better off like Demango hovering over the ignore feature.
    TDV likes you better that way.
    Yep you're better off that way stay in your comfort zone.
     
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  16. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    I can see where that would be an insurmountable problem
    for a person , "WITH NO GAME"
    A complete;y different thing for , "A STEPPER" / A Skilled and Trained Player.
    To some , everything is impossible.
    Let me refresh your memory ,
    I generally don't bet on other players , I only bet when I have the dice SO
    my session BEGINS with ME. I get the dice I have my
    hand , I color up and walk , the session ENDS with me.
    As I have said numerous time my sessions BEGIN & END with me.
     
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  17. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    I can see where it might be for a random player or someone
    with ZERO SKILL LEVEL.
    Now you are starting to see the light. Five is no great shakes
    even the casibo math says to expect that.
     
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  18. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    Now here is why this , "$#^*T" makes you look so Damned Foolish
    because while the stepper pounds it for $1100

    you and the , GROUP OF INSIDERS would nail down a whopping $35 , THAT IS of course if you
    went way out on a limb and boosted your bet up from a buck to $5

    No it doesn't
     
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  19. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    That should not be unfamiliar territory for you
    Wrong battle
    wrong game
    ALL SAME SAME. as they use to say over there.
     
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  20. James Hall, Apr 15, 2019

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    It's not diluting , it's betting a trend and remember
    the other trend the 10s that's another $270.
    You NON HACKERS really need to get someone to help you
    While the stepper is , "VAULT ASSAULTING for $1370
    you're dinking around for nickles and dimes.
     
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