I was at the Horseshoe recently,shooter made four points number five was a nine,I layed 600.00 NO nine won 400.00 shooter went seven and out (great TIP ) thanks, citywide

I hit a 4 point fire bet at the tableI was not the shooter and missed this I only had a little over a 100 in the rack shooter was on the 4 for point of 5

When I am shooting I take down my passline odds rather than hedge. If I am not the shooter I take down my bet if I have it on the needed number.

Hi EagleDice, I'm with you on that. I never considered placing a lay bet when I was the shooter. To me, if a shooter is on a roll, don't mess with that flow. Sometimes I feel like I need to go back to school for statistics, physics, geometry and calculus in order to play craps. Lifeisacrapshoot (Pam)

You do realize that you only get paid with the Fire bet once the outcome is reached? Once a 4 point is established and won, you now are guaranteed a $25.00 payout for each $1.00 bet. After the come out and a number has been established for the 5 point - the shooter continues until either the shooter hits the number or 7 outs. If they 7 out, you get your $25.00 payoff. If the number hits, you are now guaranteed to get paid $250.00 for every $1.00 bet. To move onto the 6 point Fire bet, the shooter now has to make the number on the Come out roll, that has not been hit yet. Repeat numbers are not counted towards the Fire Bet - if the Shooter gets the 9, then an 8, then a 9, then the 10, then the 6, then the 6 again, then the 4, even though the shooter hit 7 wins, the Fire bet only counts the number once no matter how many times it's hit. So, for the shooter to hit the 6 point Fire bet in the previous example, the Come out would be 5. At this point, you are guaranteed a $250.00. If the shooter 7's out, you get $250.00, if the shooter gets the 5, the 6 point Fire bet has now been hit and won and you will receive $1000.00 for each $1.00 bet. So it's not a win something or lose everything scenario. Once the 4th individual number has been hit, you are guaranteed to win $25.00. To hedge a $25.00 win against a $250.00 win when trying to hit the 5 point, isn't big enough for me to hedge it. I'm there gambling, so GAMBLE. Now once the 5th point is hit, and there is a difference between a $250.00 win vs a $1000.00 win - then yes, you may want to hedge the 6th number. Thus far, I've never been that lucky to get to that point and realize I could have hedged. To date, I've won (1) 4 point Fire bet, and (1) 5 point Fire bet. For as long as I've been playing though, those $1.00's on each shooter add up fast when it's a shooter, point, 7 out, new shooter. Of course, once the shooter is on to their 4th win, I'm sure every player around the table is saying their "Could have, should have, would have's" Once the 4th point is it, the excitement on the table builds from there. To think that $1.00 investment has just paid off a guaranteed $25.00 and possible $250.00 is the thrill. But winning Fire bets don't come around too often. Last Sunday I played for at least 4 hours. No winning Fire bets. Once I was done playing (and out of money and just watching at that point) I saw a 4 point hit and then a 5 point hit. Not in a row, not at the same table, but the same DAY. Some of my casino trips result in me spending close to 8 hours at the Craps table. And you see no winning Fire bets. None that even got close.

What I now due is after the fourth point is made, I go over to the darkside and bet 150 against the point, even if I'm shooting, and 400 if we're going for point six. I'm too old to give a sh..t. about hurting someone's ego, if they/ I are gonna get it, they'll get it. Got to make the Fire Pay if you're that close.