"They all play the come. Where is the need for it?" So by playing the come there is no need for measuring skill? "They use mostly one dice set." If you use it with sufficient skill then it will work as well as any other set of the same ilk. "In my own view people rely on BT to cover up their own toss defiencies." Your most highly valued opinion is hereby noted. "In other words your shot is not legit." Pure logic at the highest standards. "Lousy posts keep it moving! " Yep.