Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by \$nakeEye\$, Jan 9, 2018.

1. DeMango, Jan 10, 2018

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Quite frankly the only reason I don't do Cid's system is it takes a session bankroll of \$2000.00 to play at the \$5 pass line level. His buy in was \$10,000 to keep the riff raff out at a \$25 table. That was for level 1.

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2. DeMango, Jan 10, 2018

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Some people think their way is the only way. Mini Scobletes, their way or the highway.

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3. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2018

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Technically...not true. The bet you are on must hit ONCE to win. On a comeout roll...you are not betting a box number, you are betting on a 7-11 winner...2-3-12 loser. There is no box number to "hit twice".

It is no different than a player witnessing a roll of 4-4....then deciding a trend has developed and wants to bet it. He does not have to hit the 4 three times to win. He needs to hit it once...when he has a bet on it.
It would be interesting if your statements had a factual aspect to them.

I do make place bets on the 6-8 at times....and that's because "I can roll an extra 1 (6) per 36"

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4. James Hall, Jan 10, 2018

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Another very good attempt at , "SHADING THE TRUTH" but no facts there
Again for every come bet a person , "COLLECTS ON" , that number must hit twice
When a person places a bet on the , "COME" the dice are rolled his bet travels to the number that shows on roll one
"THAT IS A FACT" / "TECHNICALLY TRUE"
The second time that number hits
That player " COLLECTS A BET" that too is , "TECHNICALLY TRUE"
He collects on the second time that number shows
All that is factually true
Again if a shooter rolls 8 sixes the come better will collect on 4
while the place bettor will collect on all 8 and many of them may be at , "FULL PRESS" allowing for a much larger win
But you play the come bet , it is your money after all
or it is at least for a time

A savvy player , "NEVER NEEDS TO DECIDE" a trend has developed , he doesn't have to make that determination

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5. Onautopilot, Jan 10, 2018

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If you try arguing that the come bet is one of the better bets on the table as to the EV.......do not continue that argument with an innumerate, and we have a few of those here.....just read the posts here on this page.

Throw in a little cognitive dissonance with the innumeracy, and you can really have a laugh with your morning coffee as you read their "opinions".

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6. superrick, Jan 10, 2018

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I laugh every time you two twins post you better go back to dealing then maybe you can see the light! You truely do not understand the game you were brain washed if you ever did deal the game!

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7. James Hall, Jan 10, 2018

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Yeah throw a little cognitive dissonance around then the
in numerates get scared cause they think you know what you are talking about , then they too start playing by the MATH , LOL
, "NOT" , Actually , the reality is many fine , winning craps players started out playing that game , till they found out what that does , then they finally discovered how futile that approach actually is
Some people are stubborn , never learn and just keep
till the bankroll is gone , then give it up altogether

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8. \$nakeEye\$, Jan 10, 2018

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NOT " FORCED " - " SELECTIVE " would be MORE apropos ! -

One needs to go thru a " vetting process " - if you will -

THEN - IF - you have the audacity to " dispute / challenge " the hierarchy of the forum -

WOE be unto THEE !

THAT premise ONLY holds TRUE in America -

YOU are IN HEAVY's DOMAIN -

And HE is THE BOSS there !

Except when IRISH intercedes and drives people away in droves due to his lack of communication skills !

Regards active posters - kind of samo-samo as here -

ONLY a select FEW care to get involved -

The majority - here and there - are essentially - " wall flowers " !

Which in a way is kind of good -

As they have NOTHING of VALUE to contribute anyway !

\$...eE..\$

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9. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2018

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You mean like a meet and greet or a phone conversation with H?

Or you need to correspond back and forth to demonstrate "worthiness" to H to participate?

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10. \$nakeEye\$, Jan 10, 2018

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First the latter - THEN - IF - accepted - the former !

\$...eE..\$

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11. \$nakeEye\$, Jan 10, 2018

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REGARDS the COME BET vs the PLACE BET -

THAT ISSUE has been argued already -

The NUMBERS are IN -

The PLACE BET is SUPERIOR to the COME BET -

REGARDLESS of the Voting Results -

In ALL due respect -

The " COME BET " - NOT ONLY sucks -

BUT -

" SUCKS BIG TIME " !

\$...eE..\$

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12. superrick, Jan 11, 2018

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Well, little man, there was never a mention that I sometimes wear a hat, until, lone irish digit, on Dec 8, 2017 wrote the below quote! Post #89 http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/some-early-mp-musings.30071/page-5

I met you in 2016 on July July 15th so what you wrote is just a lie that's right I said exactly what it was you have been caught in a lie! We were in Red Rock casino to met everybody that was going to the American craps Academy class and I invited you to go, but you turned me down!

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13. TDVegas, Jan 11, 2018

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Not true...

The true story?

I had taken a picture in Boulder City of a dummy sitting in a chair wearing a brimmed hat and I innocently posted it here. This was long before the ACA.

When the picture was posted here the first remark from a poster was “it looks like supperrick”!!

That was my first clue of what you looked like.

The second reason I knew you wore a hat AND what you looked like? With your videos on YouTube...your reflection appeared in the window of a car you were videotaping at a car show...unbeknownst to you.

So, between the dummy and the reflection...I had a rock solid idea of what you look like LONG before the ACA.

I saw you in the distance near the bubble when I was playing. Unmistakable. The dummy, the hat. I could have identified you in a lineup without ever meeting you.

Who wears that hat in the casino?

Only one person I’ve ever seen. You.

Cmon Rick...I was able to identify where you live when, in a hair split second your video camera taped the street sign outside your home. Remember? I told you to take it down because people could find out where you live.

Figuring out what you look like was a piece of cake.

Cut the crap....and let’s move on.

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14. lone irish digit, Jan 11, 2018

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This is Barney,

Not only can you see his ranger hat in many of the Supperick's most greatest and wonderful videos but if you have a supper computer like the LID you can see his most handsome and manly face in the reflections and mirrors on some.

Thank you very much

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15. Bases loaded, Jan 11, 2018

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I always pictured SR with a hat. Not sure why. You're right it must have been the videos. Reflections, and shadows.

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not sure what interest anyone has in what rick looks like, or I look like, or what TD looks like.

going to a casino to find someone, that's kinda weird, almost like stalking.

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17. Twelve4s, Jan 11, 2018

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Isn’t this supperick? I don’t see a hat?

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18. DeMango, Jan 11, 2018

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It is stalking, not that there is anything wrong with that!

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19. superrick, Jan 11, 2018

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WELL ONE OF HIS FELLOW BUBBLE CRPS PLAYERS CAME UP TO ME THAT DAY AND ASKED IF I WANTED TO MEET TDV that he was sitting at the bubble machine there was no spying on him as I know a lot of craps players in Vegas and get phone calls all of the time as to who they bump into. I watched his play sitting next to him for a while then asked if he played tennis and I got a no as fast as he could get the words out of his mouth.

After that, I popped the big question was he, in fact, TDV, and got the same answer, No! I got up to walk away knowing who he was at that point he came running up to me and admitted that yes, he was, in fact, the great bubble craps player basically playing for a \$1.
Next came the clincher when twodicebilly walked up to me and I asked him if he wanted to meet TDV. TDV freaked out when twodicebilly said Hi and introduced himself at that time we told him to come to the class which he turned down the offer!

So cut the BS there TDV you got caught in your little story and yes by the way you did tell me about that street sign and I thanked you for doing so! But at no time before I introduced myself to you, did you know who I was!

Now, that we are over that one how does it feel to be called a liar which you do all of the time in your sly way of writing things?

By the way, did you catch the new thread
You Have Been Asked To Leave

And the post there by random_roller that dispels all that you have been saying about your beloved casinos, that you go out of your way to try to protect! Everybody on this board should read it and have Bob Nersesian's phone number on their cell phone!
702-385-5454

I saw plenty of things that never should have happened to players that did nothing wrong in the casinos, don't think it can't happen to you if you are winning and you have one stupid suit or boxman at the table you are playing on!

Now for the big question TDV, did you watch me winning good money in a little time on the table at Red Rock and how the dealers were thanking me for the way that I took care of them?

You keep making like we can't win at the casinos playing craps and we do. Even the late great betwthelines once wrote that players might be able to make a liven playing craps! We, all play in the short run and playing by the math is a good way to ruin.

Betting on only low house edge bets will not allow you to make enough to cover when you lose! But don't worry the casinos taught you how to play craps and that in it's self should tell you something! Just like them teaching to use the stupid come bets!

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20. superrick, Jan 11, 2018

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