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Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by superrick, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. superrick, Sep 9, 2018

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    Nice SuperRick Here, Something for you guys to watch and make comments on. Is there a few things that you can comment on it in this video? Can you pick them out is my question for all of you guys?

     
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    Let's try to not cut anybody down in this video. The only thing you should comment on is what is happening on the table without bringing in someone name that posts on this board! I know that will be hard to do for some of you guys because you think that this board is here to just post nothing but lies about others that you never met!
     
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  3. lone irish digit, Sep 9, 2018

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    This is Barney,

    The most obvious thing is there are no BS or DI player of the craps at the table. This is easily verified since none of the players are wearing a DI skunkhat or DI goat coat. The other thing is most of the player of the craps seem to have some kind of serious head illness which causes them to look most very, very hideous.

    TYVM

    PS..Mr. Supperick, what did you do to the NiceSupperick personage? I hope you didn't pisses him off and he left the forum like other personages.
     
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  4. yacraps, Sep 9, 2018

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    LOL..are you trying to say the stick and come bet sucked..it did finish a little ahead,it also didnt look like he got paid correct on his pass line winner 9
     
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  5. James Hall, Sep 9, 2018

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    Well the come bettors would have done better
    placing numbers
     
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    Well that depends...how many times your pressing and when you and if you take your bets down or call them off at the right time if you press like Mr. Grafstein presses a guy in that hand does a little better placing bets then the come bet-er of course this is hind sight, and if I remember correctly you guys dont play the pass line when your not the shooter...and on that hand the passline done did alright eh..;)
     
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  7. James Hall, Sep 9, 2018

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    Absolutely that is the main key , many players
    will keep pressing till they 7 out , never pulling anything
    then they stand back and wonder what happened.
    I like to play across and full press , my betting strategies
    have rules , these rules tell me when to press
    and when to pull my bets down and when to take
    everything off.
    I do exactly what the rules say.
     
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    That is one of the keys in 777s book...adhere to and establish a plan before you go to the tables
     
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  9. James Hall, Sep 9, 2018

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    actually that is not hindsight , I don't play the come bet .
    We don't bet on other shooters at all , it's too expensive
    You can win money on your throw and you can lose it all
    back waiting for the dice to get back around .
     
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    777 is absolutely right , one big factor in winning
    is having the discipline to stick to your strategy
    he has mentioned that or something similar
    several times
     
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    I thought the PL/Come bettor did pretty well, esp. as he was playing greens & blacks. It was a helluva good hand.
     
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  12. yacraps, Sep 9, 2018

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    I agree..of course on a hand like that one its hard not to be able to make money
     
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    No center table action. Dice went off the table and box didnt inspect the dice.
     
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  14. Mssthis1, Sep 10, 2018

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    Since one 18 roll hand is thousands of hands short of being a large enough sample to prove or disprove betting strategies, I noticed these things.

    One die may of been nicked since it rolled over when the stickman presented it.

    Back wall was 5 rows of big bumps that only go halfway up, the style I prefer.

    Crew was competent and no heat.

    Pace was good even with the editing being considered. No middle bets to slow down the game.

    ATS didn't hit. twice.

    Anyone can have long rolls

    Where the sevens fall makes a lot of difference. Comeout seven made this at least an 18 roll hand instead of 2 hands of 10ish and 8.

    Since it was a $25 table the come bettors should have went to Cromwell or used part of their money for transportation to go to a casino with at least 10X odds.

    Everyone was probably playing above their bankroll. That's just a guess from looking at what was in the rail.

    Dice off the table and money on the layout didn't cause a seven on the next roll.

    Seven out came after a craps number. Those who believe in that superstition and turned their bets off would have been saying "I told you so"
     
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  15. dustedone, Sep 10, 2018

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    Hopping that FIVE and NINE...how many times did they show up it 18 rolls?
     
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    A $10 bettor could have won
    $618 on the 4 and 9 alone with the Mesa Magic
    working for him in those 12 rolls .
    withe the same amount of money at risk on
    those two numbers the come bettors would not
    have fared as well
     
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  17. superrick, Sep 10, 2018

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    Nice SuperRick here, I know Mssthis, that you must have some great rolls the way that you counted this one up! I would have written anything but twice you wrote it was 18 rolls! When in fact it was a 15 before the 7 out at 16 rolls of the dice. You must be handing around with some of these DI instructors that love to add to their rolls.

    Or did you count those two rolls that went off of the table, yeah that's it right? I love it when I'm on a table and someone says great roll to the shooter that was a 33 roll when in fact it was only 22 rolls of the dice!

    So far you guys have given me a lot of laughs with this one video, it funny to sit back and see what others see when watching a game of craps because most have their eyes closed to what is happening!

    I'll hang around and see what some of you other guys come up with about this video, and maybe go out and find a different one to see what you guys see!
     
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    The point was already set at 5 and there were already come bets on the 4 and 9 at the beginning of the video. Those are the 3 rolls I added.
     
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  19. Mssthis1, Sep 11, 2018

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    This post should probably hang around in its original form
     
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    1-5 pl point
    2-4
    3-9
    4-3
    5-9
    6-6
    7-2
    8-6
    9-5 off the table (pl winner)
    10-7 pl winner
    11-9 pl point
    12-9 pl winner
    13-4 off the table (pl point)
    14-4 pl winner
    15- 9 pl point
    16-4
    17-12
    18-7 out
    All right lets talk craps,this is a typical hand and the math I learned here from members and books
    is all here in this hand and is pretty close...the average roll before a 7- 8 point something this hand went 9 or10 what ever you want to call it....A hand can be resolved with in 4 point something rolls (12th,14th and 18th roll) you can cut the cake a million different ways but in the end theres only one way to eat it this is the math I use to help me play the game...so now I ask wheres the magic bullet...and dont tell me in Kennedy's head
    Missthis and Dustedone was correct 18 rolls in this shooters hand or hands how ever you want to cut it up
     
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