Inside/Out Craps Strategy 2018 (Tested) $5/$10/$15 tables

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  1. Freddyy, Apr 13, 2018

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    ... you invest 43$+ 10$ pass. That’s 53$ down the drain 3/4 of the time if you’re lucky. Better be fucking good at it to recover 212$ Average every time you get things running. Too much at risk for too long...believe me, I tried and it was costy...lost back most of my big wins doing so. And I got a helluv a throw.

    Oh and ffs. Keep that firebet in your rack. It’s a rip off ... 33% ha means they steal you 1/3 of your money when they pay you, all when you lose it.

    There are a shitload of strategy you need to mix in this game not to get raped. One good one for you. If you see a guy chicken feeding, DP+ 1-2 dc, no odds & no reload. Or if nobody is making points. Don’t use a line bet and lay the point.

    Best reason to do it? They will get pissed off and get out if you win & they lose. Better shooters will take their place!
     
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  2. tabletop123, Apr 13, 2018

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    If you guys are getting to 10 rolls pretty frequently...why not just bet only on yourself?

    A naked Passline bet on the shooter before you in order to have some action... which ensures the dice won't pass you by!

    Also....a 12 hour session? THAT is waaaayyyy too long for a single session. It's best to be in, & out of the Casino in 30-60 minutes!
    Remember that long sessions allows the Vig to systematically chip away at your bankroll.

    Whenever you win a bet....ya still lose a little bit to the house. Yep, when you are winning, the Vig Is no problem, but over long sessions...it still puts a sizeable dent in your bankroll. Same thing with those $5 firebet wagers. No big deal, it's only $5. However, when ya wager 40 times, & ya get nothing in return....it adds up.

    In a perfect world...ya have your win goal in 20 minutes or less!

    I know.....we live in a imperfect world! ESPECIALLY when gambling is involved.
     
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  3. tabletop123, Apr 13, 2018

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    Doesn't matter to me about the "likes"! It's the substance of the post that matters......NOT who's making the post! I don't play the "Side", " Camp" thingy!

    Nor do i unnecessarily create enemies. We are all adults. I have no time for disliking someone JUST BECAUSE a "Friend" dislikes them.

    I TRY to get along with everyone, UNTIL they start the "Personal", meddling, threatening, name-calling thingy! Once THAT starts......DONE!
     
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  4. tabletop123, Apr 14, 2018

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    Yep.....that's what Dice Influencers seem to ignore. A hellavu throw STILL will not beat "loading the bases". Too much see-sawing ( even if you have a deft toss), & then eventually the inevitable....."BUSTED"!

    As TD stated...it's not horrible to employ an Across bet once or twice during a session, but your timing better be impeccable.
    To wager Across as your bread, & butter system.....GOOD LUCK!

    Staying 4.73 rolls ahead ( it takes that just to break even betting Across)EVERYTIME that you get the dice is a insurmountable task.
     
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  5. Onautopilot, Apr 14, 2018

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    If you average 10 rolls before a 7, you have the keys to the vault!
     
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  6. BuckShot, Apr 14, 2018

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    The issue I am finding is in the betting and not the dice set.
    If I got back to my original strategy where I bet on one number only rolling that number against a seven and applying a power press method for betting I showed a very nice profit in the +1k area from an original $380 bank roll..

    But this method also had quite a few $380 bank roll losses because it was very aggressive betting and the dice set was just not good enough to keep up resulting in a more like 50/50 deal.

    I've tested other methods involving just the 4 & 10 and in my simulations I showed a loss ratio of 90/10.

    Maybe what I will try today is cancel out the 4 & 10 from the INSIDE/OUT betting method to see what the results are.
    Noted: 2018/04/14

    I'm still gonna use the 6,2/6,2 dice set.

    UPDATE: Watch this video
    This method absolutely works perfect for long term play allowing more than 10-12 hrs of continuous play on the same bank roll using the long term 6/8 strategy.
     
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  7. Freddyy, Apr 14, 2018

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    That’s basically my system. But I collect first hit after the spread. Then go powerpressing. It’s more effective at the 10$ level tho.

    For sessions, don’t be more then 3h at a table
     
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    rasta luck let us know how you dids :)
     
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  9. yacraps, Apr 14, 2018

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    Td I would have to call those rolls a cold trend ;)...justa bout then I say ok lets go dark and wham come out winner 7 pay the line.. oh ok the table is warming up lets go back to the do side.. 6 alright good point here comes the drink girl next roll 7 out @#%k Im going to go play bingo :D
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Apr 14, 2018

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    Two bubble regulars who always play the same DP progression system were looking for rolls like that last night and didn't get it. Right after they sat down the machine set and made the 8 as a point 5 times in a row. 6th made point was a 5. A couple comeout sevens were tossed in on that roll just to grind salt into their wounds.

    Needles to say they left broke. I had my second best bubble night moneywise to date. 322 rolls. machine had a SRR of 9.20. 11 rolls 10 or longer. Longest roll was 43 with no comeout sevens.
     
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  11. TDVegas, Apr 14, 2018

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    LOL...this is why I stick one way. It's bad enough getting beat with early 7's. To switch to DP and have the table turn? Misery.
     
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  12. TDVegas, Apr 14, 2018

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    There was a guy 2 days ago....arrived at the perfect moment for his 3 point DP Molly. Two times around, every roll was four to five rolls before a 7. This generally meant he was winning all three for at least 10 shooters.

    Then it happened. I got the dice. 10 rolls. Then 15. Then 20. Then 25. You could see the deflation as he kept adding a DP after a hit.

    My point....there are times when you say it's been such a good run, why tempt fate. It's gonna turn. It did. He got burned. He was like a pig in shit for 10 shooters. 1 guy busted him out. One thing I've learned....it WILL turn.

    Run, man, run after a sequence of so many short rolls where you got a perfect storm to match your wagering.

    April has been a so-so month for me. A few long rolls, but too many early 7's. I seem to run month to month, good, bad.

    Nice on the 9.2. That's where money is made. It's a good feeling walking out after a run like that. Maybe some of that will arrive soon;)
     
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  13. von duck, Apr 14, 2018

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    So you're saying that he should have recognized that the "trend" would end with you? :confused: :)
     
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  14. TDVegas, Apr 14, 2018

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    Not trend. Limits. 10 straight shooters of 4-5 rolls. Once I doubled that (10)...out.

    He had also more than doubled his buy in. $100 into $200 with a conservative strategy is no walk in the park that quick. Limits.:)

    A trend cannot be recognized. A limit can:cool:

    Serious gamblers work with numbers....not voodoo.:cool:
     
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  15. Freddyy, Apr 14, 2018

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    Never reload a darkside play.

    Hot shooters will kill you.

    When it turns, drop 1 do bet and build from it. If it’s his time. He’ll get you going.
     
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  16. TDVegas, Apr 14, 2018

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    He was re loading. I was rolling 9's like no other.
     
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  17. James Hall, Apr 14, 2018

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    When you post I seem to detect mixed messages , first one way then the next post seems quite the opposite
    I suppose it doesn't matter
     
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    Not recognizing a trend , should never prevent you from betting them
    a great deal of profit abides within them
     
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  19. tabletop123, Apr 14, 2018

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    The messages aren't mixed. It's your THOUGHT process that's mixed!
     
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  20. von duck, Apr 14, 2018

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    So you're saying that he should have "limited" his play, to the time that the dice were "trending" in his favor? :)
     
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