In Honor of James Hall

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  1. von duck, Oct 22, 2018

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    $16? Interesting. Explained your "$16 place bet" :confused: this is gonna be good :D.
     
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  2. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    See this is why so many players have so many problems
    they don't realize , you do have these choices on every bet.
    That's where the phrase , bet what , the dice are giving you comes from.
    As TwoDiceBilly says so often "Bet to your strengths and eliminate the rest.
    You are free to eliminate bets or place bets according to your , "SKILL SET"
     
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  3. TDVegas, Oct 22, 2018

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    True, but that has nothing to do with my point. You don't get to ignore the first part of a passline bet (come out roll) when making a comparison between pass and place bets.
     
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  4. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Your point had nothing to do with the question as asked.
    The basic question was , would you be
    MORE LIKELY to cash a bet covering one number or three
    with the risk of three being the same as the one.
     
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  5. Bases loaded, Oct 22, 2018

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    Can't wait for this argument to be settled.

    Is there a location where the results of all the other great arguments are stored?

    Was wondering what the score was
     
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  6. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Perhaps TDVegas would like to ask the question
    "What would offer the greater opportunity for cashing bets" ??

    "A $5 pass line bet with $10 odds = $15
    or
    covering three numbers the 6 , the 8 and the 9 for $17
    thus covering 3 numbers as opposed to 1 for just 2 more dollars.
     
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  7. Mssthis1, Oct 22, 2018

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    Personally, I consider betting across as spray and pray. The more skilled you are the fewer numbers you need to cover because your skill allows you to hit those 1 or 2 numbers more often.
     
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  8. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    These arguments can have a very positive learning value to
    novice players , if they read them and take out the
    instructive points and apply them to their game.
    How would you have answered the question?
     
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  9. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Yes I know. This is a misconception suffered by many players.
    Another great misconception that leads people
    to leave a lot of money on the table.
    If those one or two numbers were all you rolled
    that would be the way to play , the problem is that
    is an absolute impossibility.
    Every number you roll you do not have a bet on
    is just one more opportunity lost and each roll
    not capitalized on moves you one more roll
    closer to that dreaded 7.
     
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  10. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Would this statement be true or false ?

    It is easier to get ahead with large wins
    than
    with small losses
     
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  11. Bases loaded, Oct 22, 2018

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    You guys are arguing what is a 'good bet'

    It's been said here before - a good bet is a bet that wins.
     
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  12. TDVegas, Oct 22, 2018

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    Good bet is essentially a personal judgement. It can have many factors as the PLAYER sees fit.

    A good bet could be something as simple as a bet that wins.

    There's really only one "benchmark" method to discern one bet as better than another. If we don't use that benchmark...then "better bet" becomes a personal judgement not rooted in anything beyond "I like the bet".

    Sort of I like vanilla, you like chocolate.
     
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  13. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Nope that was not the question , the question was
    which bet would more likely result in cashing a bet.
    I was not asking which bet is better but I guess a person
    could ask the question
    Of the two which way would cash more bets over time
    placing 3 numbers or playing one pass line bet with double odds
    The three numbers having the same money at risk as the one
    pass line bet with odds??
    Any thoughts?
     
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  14. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    How about the benchmark being
    The one that wins the most , more often??
     
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  15. HornHiYo, Oct 22, 2018

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    The pass line bet with odds risks $15 per toss to win $17 to $25 depending on the pass line number.

    The place bet on the three boxes risks $17 per toss to win $7.

    If betting a greater number of bets is of any value to the player why piss around with just three numbers? Why not bet all 36-numbers?

    I'm fairly sure only an innumerate or Short Busser will get this one right, but for those who don't know better which bet strategy will collect more often and possibly have the most chips in rail when Big Red shows; betting table minimum on all 36-numbers, betting table minimum on three numbers, or betting table minimum pass line with double odds?
     
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  16. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    So is this your answer then??
     
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  17. HornHiYo, Oct 22, 2018

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    No. That's my question.

    So is this your answer to my question then?
     
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  18. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    Did you have a question??
     
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  19. James Hall, Oct 22, 2018

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    When you play , are your betting strategies predicated upon
    Small losses or
    large wins???
     
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  20. HornHiYo, Oct 22, 2018

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    давно подозревал, что русские заняли этот форум или с самого начала контролировали его. Так называемый Джейкоб - это просто оперативник ФСБ. Спасибо за Ваше подтверждение Esadasssahal Crnacv5o
     
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