If I can do it ... "You" can do it too

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  1. TR31

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    Here's another photo showing how I rolled 12 (6,7,8) in 15 rolls. That makes 12 + 11 + 12 or 35 (6,7,8) in 45 rolls. Again, that is 35 successful rolls in 45 attempts. image.jpeg

    When I wrote that if I can do it, "you" can do it too -- the "you" does not mean everyone; the "you" is for those people who want to make money from Aruze Bubble craps and are willing to put in the time to learn this skill. Not everyone can do this, but if you learn this skill, you have a very strong chance to make money.

    Last year, I spent a lot of time sharing information but a few readers were butt-hurt that someone can have a skill of non-random rolls at Bubble craps. The best part was no one could prove or show using sound math that these rolls weren't non-random. I am not wasting my time this year except to post photos after photos to remind people it can be done. I can't wait for DeMango's next bovine manure excuse when I produce over 300 rolls in the photos.

    I am selling anything. I am not charging anything for this information. I am spending time so other people can make money from bubble craps. Anyone can see the photos so they know it can be done.

    You got to love the Nuclear Option -- the ability to roll red 7's at a faster rate than 1 in 6 (for random dice). It's pretty obvious based on the photo's I am rolling red 7's at a faster rate than 1 in 6 rolls.

    Recall this is a forum to share information. Good luck and make some money at Aruze Bubble Craps.
     
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    Here are the earlier two photos so everyone can see how devastating accurate I was in rolling (6,7,8) in 15 rolls. That is 23 success in 30 rolls.

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    These are very nice photos, TR31, and they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you know how to post a photo. Naysayers be damned. :) Just one observation. I see $106 in bets, and only $6 in winning bets. This amounts to a very marginal "winner" wouldn't you say? Oh yeah, TDV is gonna like your photos, he has a whole turnip truck full of them.
     
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    It is quite easy to "influence" the Aruze bubble, to produce these type of rolls. Play alone, (no problem), make a minimum wager on the pass line, then bet $100 on the field. It is unbelievably how many 6, 8, and 7s you can roll. The game is normalized, but it is NOT random. No way in hell. :)
     
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    If you play Aruze bubble craps, you should know how to play two machines. Most of the time, I play two machines.

    Typically, I'll take the photos in a way so people don't see the "bet" (hedge) side.

    I'll find some photos so you can see the two sides in action.
     
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    Tell TDV to posts photos that meet the following criteria:
    1) 12 or more (6,7,8) in 15 rolls
    2) the 7's are red 7's AND
    3) the red 7's are appearing faster than 1 in 6 rolls.

    I can't wait for those photos. I chose my photos for a reason -- the red 7's to show off the Nuclear Option.
     
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    I see, that's a good idea, I suppose.
     
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    Believe me, he can find whatever he needs in the way of bubble photos. OK, I do see a lot of 6, 7, 8s, so how do you bet to capitalize on these numbers. How do I tell, if the machine is "in the mood" that would be good to know. :)
     
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    1. Again you have to understand math. Per binomial probability, the odds of throwing 12 (6,7,8) in 15 rolls is pretty rare.

    Suppose you had 200 live craps tables and 200 monkeys. Suppose each monkey at each table is allowed to throw 15 rolls, respectively. On average, about 1 in those 200 monkeys will be successful throwing 12 (6,7,8) in 15 rolls. It really is a rare event. P(X=x) is less than one half of one percent.

    2. TD typically does not take photos of 15 rolls at a time.

    3. TD does not have ability to execute the Nuclear option (Red 7's) since he gambles by parlaying his bets.

    Don't hold your breathe.
     
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    First photo:

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    Second photo (the hedge side):

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    If you looked at the first photo, you would assume that I lost $93. But if you saw the hedge side, then you realized I won $231 ($6 + $225) vs initial bets of $228 ($99 + $129). So I really won $3 on both or combined positions. This is how I pick up pennies per position. I am a grinder since I need to get my points or coin-in.

    You know it's the same rolls because the numbers are identical for both photos.

    Sorry, but I cannot show how I hedge as it is too sensitive to display how I play for points or coin-in. I got $231 of action AND I won $3. The reason the bets were large was that I hit 5 box numbers before shooting for the Red 7.
     
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    TR31 - from my short time with the bubble, it does seem like some influence could be gained. Very small, and probably biased opinion. I won, ha ha.

    Playing the don't worked best, with not a lot of repeating numbers. Lay the outsides, and pop it when the 3 or 4 are up.

    Playing 2 terminals seems like lots of effort, but if you have the time and your earning points.....
     
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    Well, I just read from your other thread that you don't go by the topside number. And I don't know what the 3 second change is either.

    It's fun just trying things out.

    Learn to have fun or quit.
     
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    That's all well and good if you can find a machine with no one else playing which is about 1 time in 100 here unless you want to play at 3am. A red seven is a seven out, dice went to next shooter.
     
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    Uh Oh, Damage Control ! Uh well I ya know, gotta go now. :D
     
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    So your saying, that when you hit the box numbers, you weren't trying to hit the 7, you were only trying for the 7, after you hit the box numbers. What's the trigger, that causes you to go for the seven, instead of say, another box number? Why not just bet red, and throw sevens, or lay, and throw sevens? When you hit for the three dollars, is that when get out, and head for the cage, or do hang in there and try to score another $3 hit?
     
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    Von Duck, you must have bad memory. You ought to see a doctor soon. Have you tried Focus Factor, which I heard helps with memory.

    - I have always stated to play Aruze Craps like a slot machine. I have always recommended to make your money from the slot club.

    - If the machine is in the right mode, I go for the skill shots or what you people call dice control. The “trigger” is something that I to wait for. How often it shows up is something I’m not telling. Another “trigger” is when I have too much money on the bets.

    - Otherwise, I play both sides and hedge. I lose on boxcars. I think I said this many times before. The boxcars causes me to lose money when playing Pass / Don’t Pass or Come / Don’t Come. In the casino’s eye’s, I’m a big loser but I more than make it up on the backend — the casino’s left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

    - You never want to make the money from the machine if you have the slot club laying the golden egg. You want to grind or milk the situation.

    - I put up photos with small bets for security reasons. The casino surveillance tracks machines with big bets and you *will* know when you bet too much. And then you won’t be able to shoot. You have to fly under the radar.

    - (When you take photos of big bets, the casino will think you are cheating. The casinos let me get away with photos of small bets).

    - When you are playing late at night when the casino is dead, the last thing you want is to advertise to people that you are carrying over $10K in cash. No thanks.

    You can make all the assumptions you want, but you keep forgetting what I have been saying.

    -TR31

    PS Von Duck, you might learn something — suppose my slot tracking card was in the machine on the pass side but no slot tracking card was don’t side. Then the casino has me down for losing $93 vs being up $3.

    Suppose both tracking cards were working and I made $3 AND 1% off my coin in. My slots into free play would be $231 * 1%, which is another $2.31 pickup.

    But what if I told you the casino rebates 10% of my losses. So I have a $3 win and I get $9.30 as a loss rebate.

    What a dilemma: $3 and $2.31 in free play or get $3 and $9.30 as loss debate. Rinse and repeat.

    Like I said you might learn something, but I doubt it. But trust me when I say play Aruze Craps as a slot machine. I am a grinder and I am very good at grinding.
     
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    It seems to me that he (TR31) is risking more money for him to win just $3. Oh I forgot, he has his secret "hedge betting" system. Hmm. Just sayin.
     
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    We went through this so many times.

    House edge on pass line with 2X Odds: 0.606% or 60.6 basis points (it’s higher for me since I take hedge odds)

    House edge on don’t pass line with 2X Odds: 0.455% or 45.5 basis points (this applies to me)

    Source: http://www.nextshooter.com/odds

    The casino slot club is giving me 1% for my slot action.

    You should try doing the math. Last time I checked, 1% is greater than either 0.606% or 0.455%.
     
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    I told you TD will be putting up photos of OTHER SHOOTERS.
     
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    You obviously are playing Bubble Craps wrong if you want to have the machine by yourself.

    From my experience, 80%+ of the player are Pass Line bettors so to clear the machine, all you have to do is shout you want a 7 out when there is a point. And if you roll a red 7 on a consistent basis, the other players will avoid you like a plague.

    Try it the next time you want a seat -- just keep rooting for a 7 out when people have a ton of money riding on box numbers.
     
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