True. Uh, they have the mathematical edge over the short haul too. It's called house edge. It's called paying winning bets at less than fair value and taking losing bets in whole. True. Whether he plays for 2 minutes or 24 hours...his bets are STILL subject to the vig. see below...your (his words) "Craps is a totally random, non-dependant, negative expectancy game of chance" well, which is it? totally random, non dependent or one can spot a trend? These two statements from Tony are totally at odds with each other.