I play a special method on Pass Dont Pass.

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  1. TDVegas, May 2, 2018

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    I think what he is suggesting is he will give you the first page of results...then based off those results---you give him the play without seeing the results on the next page.

    Analyzing rolls after the fact is entirely useless, IMO....

    Unless dice influence is happening or in the case of bubble craps..there is a glitch.
     
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  2. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    WE NEED TO GO WITH THE FLOW SO WE CAN capture a profitable trend in the ebb and flow of craps decisions.
     
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  3. Bases loaded, May 2, 2018

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    I'm not a DI proponent, but I must admit this is an excellent dissertation.
     
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  4. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    Nope ELLIS back plays stuff, I don't nor would I kill brain cells and waste time with such practices.
    I just play what comes with a continually variable method 50/50 it is a P or a DP that's it.

    SIMPLE.
     
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  5. TDVegas, May 2, 2018

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    You have declared that dice control is BS.

    Precision shooting is just another metaphor for dice influence. The intent is to de-randomize the results in your favor.

    If dice control is BS as you say...it would follow "precision shooting results" are BS as it implies an ability to de-randomize the dice for favorable results.

    No one is suggesting that dice control ONLY means an ability to avoid the 7....dice control at the heart simply means you have an ability to de-randomize dice in your favor. Same would apply to sniping. Dice control or influence doesn't necessarily mean sniping the 6 or any number.

    In the end...these terms DI, DC, precision shooting become intertwined to the point that there is no way to qualify or quantify it.
     
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  6. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    When the dice hit the rubber Pyramids they go off axis Yes or No?????
     
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  7. TDVegas, May 2, 2018

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    Dice control is not JUST avoiding the 7....although for all practical purposes it would present a very tangible way to beat craps.

    Dice control, dice influence, precision shooting results could mean many things. The bottom line is the intent or ability to de-randomize results for favorable outcomes.
     
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    It is true that you will be on any streak, but it will be minus 2 rolls. Example, I just won the last bet a now have 10 units in my rack, the next roll is a loser, so I am at 9 units in the rack, and change lines at this point to the other side. The next roll wins, and I am back to ten units in the rack, the following roll is also a winner, and I now have 11 units in the rack. So, it took a run of three, for me to gain 1 unit. You're on every run but -2. :) It is not a "bad way to play", not a guaranteed winner either. :cool:
     
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  9. Morgue, May 2, 2018

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    There are only two opponents in the casino. The house V the player.

    The house is represented by all the negative expectation games being offered and the player is represented by EVERY punter that walks through the door and plays them.

    I've never seen an empty casino so "the player" is pretty much playing 24/7.

    As an individual from the player group, you can't choose to only participate in the winning sessions...
     
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    Just a little idea that Ellis came up with a few years ago NET BETTING.
    The guy in the video is a former business partner to Ellis and makes one big mistake we always go with the run be it craps or baccarat.
    Except for that mistake its an eye-opening method in the video for Craps or Baccarat.

    Just remember its a mistake in the video before you jump off the bridge and yell at me guys.

     
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  11. AzDice, May 2, 2018

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    If you don't like baccarat or you get tired of winning on the crap table with this system. It works on roulette also
     
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    Hmmm...don’t think I’ve ever heard that before.
     
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  13. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    Yes Tdvegas.

    It works on roulette.
     
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    Especially that triple 000 game they got down at Venitian!
     
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  15. TDVegas, May 2, 2018

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    And the fools will play it.
     
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    As there is NO CONTROL on the machine except on the part of the casino
    analyzing rolls on bubble craps would be a tremendous exercise in futility

    However analyzing rolls is a key factor to success for players skilled in Di
    Good point TDvegas
     
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  17. Stuart Brandt, May 3, 2018

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    I would not be looking at the independent rolls I would only be interested in the P, DP being a loss or win that is all I care about just the P, DP decisions.
    I have a friend who was a big Dice Setter in the late 90s he did pretty well for a while he finally realized after laying down money on place numbers 100s of times and then lo and behold wham to seven out and get wiped out hundreds of times he now plays texas hold em poker and makes over a grand a month in home games.
    He told me you just can't stop the seven from coming its crazy so he now plays the person, not the dice, he believes he was BS sold into dice setting by some vendors and others, guys purchased real craps tables this and that that they would make easy money dice setting.

    He said its a FARCE, now he makes real money in these home poker games.
    I asked him how he wins now he said I Play the person the cards are secondary.
     
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  18. Stuart Brandt, May 3, 2018

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    EVERY play is either an Opposite or a Repeat. The odds are exactly 50/50. So I don't care what any Mathematician tells you - they don't know the game. With more than 30 years experience, I DO! An Opposite is when the opposite side wins relative to the last hand. A Repeat is when the same side repeats. The odds are exactly 50/50. Then why do you only win 43% of the hands? Because the game is rigged against guessers! Casinos have no fear of guessers.
     
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  19. eDiceGuy, May 3, 2018

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    Stuart, this appears to be nearly verbatim of a paragraph from the Gaming Pro website where they are offering a craps strategy course for $579. Are they quoting you or do you work for them? Or did you mean to quote this and forgot to post the web-site?

    http://www.thegamingpro.com/table-games/winning-craps-strategy/
     
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  20. Stuart Brandt, May 3, 2018

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    I know Tony, great guy but he doesn't want me to tell people to go to his websites.

    I turned to baccarat after hurting my right arm after tossing about 7000 rolls after a couple of months.

    My loyalty is chips and profits lol.
     
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