# I play a special method on Pass Dont Pass.

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1. Stuart Brandt, Apr 27, 2018

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Hey, guys, I am new here and play a very unique method on Pass and Don't Pass I learned it from one of the five BEST Baccarat players in the US.

Take a look and see what you think.

These are Pass and Don't Pass win decisions.

Stuart

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2. Stuart Brandt, Apr 27, 2018

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Oh these are real rolls just rolled down my home craps table no Dice Setting just chucked hard and fast.

It took about 4 hours guys.

Stuart

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3. donald, Apr 27, 2018

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What is the very unique method you learnt?

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4. Stuart Brandt, Apr 27, 2018

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This is a bit about s40 the chop system that has been adapted to CRAPS.

Folks, I ALWAYS play S40 in Mode 3. Makes life simple - no Mode Selection. And I always attempt to stay OTR for 2 bets. I like consistency. And I always couple that with U1D2 betting. The Plow plows right through culprits.

Why? - Pure Mathematics. Look, Mode 2 makes 3s culprit. Mode 3 makes 4s culprit. And 3s normally occur twice as often as 4s - end of story. Why make 3s culprit when they normally occur twice as often as 4s? In the sample shoe, 3s are low at 3 vs a norm of 4.5 while 4s are normal at 2 vs a norm of 2.25. So the sample shoe is perfect for Mode 2. But I played it Mode 3 with U1D2 always staying OTR for 2 bets. I like the consistency of always playing Mode 3 with S40 and always staying OTR for 2 bets - easier to teach and easier to play.

However, as soon as the O/R count hits +4, I'm advancing my prog to U1D2B2 and then U1D1B3. Look, U1D2 is a +20 prog. That's all she wrote. BUT, U1D1B2 is a +30 prog.

That is just a bit about it.

If you want to make 500 a day it will take some study.

Stuart

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5. yacraps, Apr 27, 2018

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Is Ellis still alive or is this from Kieth Smith

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Hi Stuart..just a side note a lot if not most the stuff from beat the casino was already wrote about from this book in 1910 they just put a few knew words and some bells and whistles (but Im not saying there's nothing wrong with that ) and welcome to the forum
Monte
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Anecdotes
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7. Stuart Brandt, Apr 27, 2018

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Ellis is a friend of mine he has started a new forum, Ellis left BTC two years ago I am the only guy who has used his stuff for craps, I also know and play baccarat well but like craps much more.
Never did the BTC stuff but I speak to Ellis daily on the phone and I mentioned that his stuff would work well on craps and so it does.
Nobody plays craps like I do they play against trends I PLAY WITH THE TREND ALWAYS.
Do you know how I am playing the above results???

I had nine made passes in a row the other day with random dice rolls I don't even set the dice any longer.

The longest rolls I have ever seen are RANDOM rollers.

GO WITH THE FLOW,,,,,,NOT AGAINST IT.

Stuart

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Thank you for that..Ellis is a neat guy glad to here is still at it I always wondered where he went

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Does this include C/O winners?

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I would guess FOLLOW or is it REPEATERS, STREAKS I forget its been a while since NOR

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I was wondering the same thing

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First game otbl, second game Follow or F

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13. DeMango, Apr 28, 2018

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When the name Ellis comes up........head for the hills!

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14. Stuart Brandt, Apr 28, 2018

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What did he do he seems like a nice guy????

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15. Stuart Brandt, Apr 28, 2018

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I speak to Ellis every Day, I was playing Baccarat but its so boring, I was a student of Tony Leo The Gaming Pro till I rolled six or seven thousand rolls on my home craps practice table and Tony is a great guy and has a great method for craps but my bankroll is not in line with his methods.
Tony is still playing daily in Vegas and has a unique method he took me under his wing and taught me his method and it really works but I have NECK problems so I had to learn how to toss Left handed and I am right handed now I can toss the dice very well with my Left hand and get good results.

Stuart

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16. Stuart Brandt, Apr 28, 2018

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DEMANGO WHAT DID ELLIS DO TO YOU???
HE IS A GREAT GUY DID YOU PLAY BACCARAT WITH HIS METHODS AND FAIL OR CRAPS WITH HIS METHODS AND FAIL????

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

Stuart

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17. James Hall, Apr 28, 2018

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Demango is part of the , "GROUP OF INSIDERS" they dislike any talk of winning
people who engage in such activity are frowned upon .

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18. Stuart Brandt, Apr 28, 2018

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ONE more test with Ellis Davis methods.

Real Craps table real dice Random rolls.

Stuart

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19. DeMango, Apr 28, 2018

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I have nothing against system sellers. There just has never been one system that works at removing the negative expectation of a particular casino game.

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20. Stuart Brandt, Apr 28, 2018

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I really don't play a method kind of like golf you cant just use one club, or like in a Kenworth over the road truck you need at least nine gears to do what you want up hills you use a 4 gear on the flat interstate, you stay in ninth gear its really all common sense.
One method will not work for all but you must be situational in your approach if dont pass is winning stay on if and make a profit..................pass is winning stay there and make a profit.

Nobody plays craps like I do they play against trends I PLAY WITH THE TREND ALWAYS.
Do you know how I am playing the above results???

I had nine made passes in a row the other day with random dice rolls I don't even set the dice any longer.

The longest rolls I have ever seen are RANDOM rollers NOT DICE SETTERS WHY BECAUSE DICE SETTING CANT STOP THE S E V E N OUT.

GO WITH THE FLOW,,,,,,NOT AGAINST IT.

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