Hurricane Howard gunna get wet!

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  1. betwthelines, Oct 6, 2016

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    rubbish, rick

    we all know whose invitation came first...we all know whose invitation regarded real casino conditions...

    james hall's refusal and counter-invitation was nothing but a side-track and typical turn-around of his own deficiencies onto his tormentors...as i have said, however, it is smart on his part since he cannot do what he says he can do under actual casino conditions

    tdv, otoh, is not the one making claims and not the one talking other than saying, "show me".

    tom p
     
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  2. $nakeEye$, Oct 7, 2016

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    TD -

    As I have said in an earlier post -

    I REALLY look forward to seeing YOUR performance on a REAL craps table !

    THAT should be a HOOT !

    Ensure that YOU keep ME posted as to the WHEN and WHERE of this Great Craps Fiasco !

    I would not want to miss this once in a lifetime opportune " Kodak Moment " !

    $...eE..$
     
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  3. betwthelines, Oct 7, 2016

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    you know, rick, you just might have something here...although i can tell you straight-up that it will put a stop to nothing. it will not only not prove anything, it will not mean anything either (i believe DI, like the theory of gravity, for example, is not actually "provable" but its truth can only be known with a "high degree of confidence" [LOL, yah, in the case of gravity that confidence level is off the charts! and such a level would be obviously less solid with DI but certainly could realistically be done])

    from approximately mid to late feb until the end of march i will be between the phoenix area watching practice ball and lost wages playing bank craps with complete flexibility as to where i am and with what i am doing...

    ...and i have repeatedly said that i would not mind sitting down and having a beer with james hall so what you are suggesting is absolutely not beyond the realm of possibilities...you are certainly correct also that i might learn something and i am always open to that...

    i might even violate my own principle and the bc rules and allow him to take the bohunk challenge on his own, home table...there would be an issue about what dice to use but that likely could be resolved somehow...

    in fact let me back up a bit and state right now that i would allow him to take the challenge on his home table...

    of course he will still refuse to do so since he has no real confidence that he can do it.

    tom p
    -g. geist: and just how you gonna resolve the dice issue?
    --tom p: i don't know
     
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  4. betwthelines, Oct 7, 2016

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    James, see my post #163.

    yes i am always willing to learn...

    i will also be in vegas the first and/or 2nd week of dec but then mesa would be less practical for me as i will not have a vehicle and absolutely loathe flying (commercially at least)

    i would also likely be bored and solicitous of my own time at a mere "demonstration" and might rather insist that you put your money where your mouth is and take up the bc under the most favorable condition possible: your own table...this would all of course await circumstances, perhaps your own time restraints for example.

    but again, as i expressed in that post, it is doubtful that you have that much confidence in your abilities.

    tom p
     
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  5. betwthelines, Oct 7, 2016

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    calling out bs is not a "smear tactic"...indeed it can be a compelling inquiry for more information and which can sometimes actually change minds (not saying that that would ever happen here...lol)...you are misguided in that---and delusional.
    in general this is a very fair criticism as we all get tired of seeing the same shit posted over and over sometimes to the point of utter absurdity (think eagleidDUHit, who, thankfully, has backed off just a tetch...lol)...

    but in your specific case you just keep coming up with example after example after example after example of disingenuous delusions and laughably transparent attributions of your own flaws onto others that it just becomes a matter of there are just so many ways one can say it in reply...stop posting your delusional bs and self-applicable, false attributions and you just might be relieved of the repetition...

    now here's james hall in a post (#146) directed at me

    and another one, directed again at me as well as others just two (of his) posts later TWO BLEEPING POSTS LATER!! (#150)
    now even the most fooled of his delusional sycophants juuuusst might be given pause with the starkness of the inconsistency here...lol...

    i have also frequently said (lol, sorry) that we all should be empathetic even sympathetic towards schizoidal delusions, adding further that as they regard DI this is not really that applicable since DI delusions do no harm and can actually be a good thing...

    thus i do not believe that james hall is doing any harm to himself or others in his dualism but it sure as heck is good for a laugh sometimes.

    tom p
     
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  6. betwthelines, Oct 7, 2016

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    more nonsense

    because your arguments are at best weak, you persist in attributing to others things that the they do not believe...

    no skeptic says it must be 6 in 36...they say just the opposite: the math does not predict...in constrast to your own innumeracy, yours and other DIers' false attributions to skeptics of this "must be" or prediction bullshit is quite understandable however since they are necessary to bolster your otherwise invalid positions.

    yep, i know, i know, but stop with your nonsense and the repetition of the retorts will also stop...lol.

    tom p
     
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  7. superrick, Oct 7, 2016

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    Tom, Ahigh, tried to prove or disprove that there were so-called DI's or it was just a joke. He spent thousands of dollars to do so and came up with nothing at all either way! You guys are just trying to badger James into doing what you want and I'll tell you one thing knowing James it's not going to happen. If I was you I would just go and see him and then you can make up your own mind. Maybe you could get TDVegas to meet you there but I seriously doubt it! TDVegas, is all talk and no action. I doubt that he will do anything!

    He is on this board to just say it can't be done without putting forward any effort to see if it can be done! This could have ended a long time ago if TDVgas would have driven over to see James but that will never happen!
     
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  8. Onautopilot, Oct 7, 2016

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    I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't end your post with....DUH!!!

    But maybe you left that "sock" in the drawer today, hu Snake?
     
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  9. wonko33, Oct 7, 2016

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    When you tell a BSer to put up or shut up, they never do because they want to keep BSing. James can never prove he can do it, you are right , naysayers would probably just say he got lucky. But he could show he believes in what he does, that he's not just typing about it. He chooses not to that and that's fine too.

    Remember when this whole thing started James said he came to Vegas multiple times each year, TD said "hey when you come over I'd like to see your shot in a real casino". IT would not be an inconvenience for either of them. TD never asked him to make an extra trip to Vegas or to be inconvenience by it.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2016

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    Nothing is going to be proven or disproven on the DI front....I think we all know that. Well, I would hope we know that.

    On the other hand, if someone says they can do something with the dice (roll numbers, avoid numbers) beyond expectation...I'll gladly tip my cap. "Well done".

    I'm not interested in your form or how you hold the dice or what set you use. Dammit...results is the only thing I care about. LOL.

    If James took and beat the bohunk challenge....major, major flunking credit!!!

    Not only did he step up and take it (the first portion of credit)...but he was able to accomplish what he says comes pretty easy (regular, consistent) to him. Even if I said "luck"...others here are going to be slapping him on the back telling him "you stuffed TDV's words right down his throat"!!! "Good one"!!

    I'd say a bunch of DI'ers (maybe even a few non DI---LOL) would love that part of the show. So, the bohunk challenge isn't about proving anything...but damn sure it would be known you elevated yourself and took TDV down a notch.
     
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  11. Onautopilot, Oct 7, 2016

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    If you question most DI's claims, they get pissed, if you ask them to demonstrate their skill claims, they get defensive, and more pissed.

    Then the pheromones kick in and they gather together to help each other "mark" their territory with more pissing!

    But a few of them are actually willing to discuss DI in a civil manner, hatzehn comes to mind, also DeMang, and a few others. Can't remember them getting into name calling. They offer their rationale on DI, and for the most part, accept that there are differing opinions on the subject, and willingly discuss those opinions..

    The concept of DI is not the big contention, it's the claims that get questioned, as should be expected. I can't understand why that is such problem for some DI claimants.
     
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  12. hartzehn22, Oct 7, 2016

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    Betwthelines- I think the hardest part of craps is recognizing the "REAL" math and dealing with it as it applies to one's known advantage. My craps play is customized to my abilities NOT to what the casino crap table wants me to play (although it takes 2 to play). IMO when I play craps I think of it as controlled chaos and how I bet is based purely on what I perceive to be my abilities and what the table appears to be given me at the time. It's a fluid situation and not grounded in "REAL" math however b/c of the known advantage I seek each and every time I touch the dice. Even though I presume an advantage, I am respectful of the "REAL" math and know that it is always on my backside. Recognizing these inherent facts is paramount to success. Betting is obviously the most crucial aspect of the game and if an alleged DI thinks or knows they have an advantage, they need to stick to their known advantage but saying that, truly knowing that and then playing that can be difficult b/c of extraneous distractions that are inherent on every table. I think disciplined players with focus and a known advantage will stick with their betting strategy and "their game" because they are winning consistently. When they don't win, is it because they strayed from their game or their known advantage. This is all just my opinion based on my own experiences over the years.
     
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  13. tabletop123, Oct 7, 2016

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    Let me blue you guys in! The way that you BET the game is More important than how good you toss the dice?

    Why sayest thou? Simply because the way that you BET the game can always be consistent! The manner in which you toss the dice CANNOT!

    You cannot replicate the same toss over & over again, even though you MIGHT come pretty close !
     
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    making claims about great shooting consistently, is like the fisherman stories, I caught a fish THIS BIG! (stretching his arms out as far as he can)
     
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  15. Onautopilot, Oct 7, 2016

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    And they didn't have their camera with them, and fishing alone that day. :)
     
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    After reading this book-length thread I can't wait for the movie!
    Who wins the challenge?!
     
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  17. wonko33, Oct 7, 2016

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    and something always comes up and they won't go fishing/golfing/play pool/bowl/throw darts etc with you .
     
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  18. superrick, Oct 7, 2016

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    What the hell is with you guys do you just come to this board to argue with anybody that you can. It all comes down to one thing get off of your dead ass and head to see James then shut the up!
     
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  19. superrick, Oct 7, 2016

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    TDVegas has had chances to see these so-called shooting and guess what he was the one that didn't want to show up, it's just bullshit that he wants to keep going on and saying everybody that says they can do something can't in his eyes. Get in your car and drive to see James or stop posting your bullshit TDVegas!
     
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  20. James Hall, Oct 7, 2016

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    not even YOU believe that BS you just blew into the foeum
    every fact here is met with opinion
     
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