HOW can you be a DICE PLAYER and remain IGNORANT of the GAME?

Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by SevenOut, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. HornHiYo, Sep 2, 2018

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    Backhanded insults are no more nice than your typical bullying. But then you know that. Good fodder for tonights phone conference tho huh.
     
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  2. James Hall, Sep 2, 2018

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    This is very true , it is what it is ,
    I am what I am , I work to advance everyday
    and by so doing it gets constantly better.

    The tragedy is you are what you are ,
    it's not getting any better and it won't .
    You will always be what you are
    a no talent no skill spiteful little man
    You have my DEEPEST SYMPATHY
    It must suck being the , "HineyHole" of the craps world.
     
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  3. James Hall, Sep 2, 2018

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    What would be the point? It would be a total waste of time.
     
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  4. HornHiYo, Sep 2, 2018

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    For the umpteenth time:
    1. You do not know me.
    2. You have never seen me play craps.
    3. You have never seen me bet.
    4. You have never seen me lose.
    5. People I hang with speak well for me.
    6. You know nothing about me.

    For all you know I am the real deal that you can only pretend to be.
    At the bottom of the pile is where AssHall thrives. Anything above is much better. Now get busy on that keyboard and type out some more bullshit.

    Here's a new challenge for you: Try to post something you have not posted about before. Chop chop!

    No can do?! That's because it's all crap you picked up or copy from someone else and spread here hundreds of times trying to look like the big shot you ain't! There's not an original thought from between those big ears huh AssHall?
     
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  5. James Hall, Sep 2, 2018

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    Hiney Hole
    1) from your posts I get a pretty
    good idea of your personality
    and your character .
    2) You are correct , I have not but
    reading your posts I would say your
    game probably leaves a bit to be desired
    3) Right I have not seen it ,you have
    however spoken of betting and from
    the negative slant I would venture to say
    that you leave a considerable amount
    of money on the table .
    4) I have never seen you lose I am
    however quite certain that is a quite
    frequent event which many others have witnessed.
    5) Why would they speak of wanting to
    see you in a well , hell I'm not even to that point
    YET.
    6) Your posts speak volumes about you
    and your negative view of the game.
    Did you mean to say you are the real deal
    or real DULL?
     
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  6. HornHiYo, Sep 2, 2018

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    All crap that dwells between your ears and nothing new ya haven't said before. Ho hum......
     
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  7. James Hall, Sep 2, 2018

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    It got the point across , not understanding it is yourproblem
     
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  8. SevenOut, Sep 3, 2018

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    Jacob.... You would be doing myself and many others a fantastic favor by DELETING THIS ENTIRE THREAD. This is not worthy of this Forum what some have been posting. I am sadly disappointed that several individuals have standards of self control, so low, that I have to make this plea.]

    Thank You,
    SevenOut

    #1- Forum Member(s) meet one another for a friendly conversation about Craps.
    #2- Those conversations are shared among fellow members who are already 'The Group'.
    #3- These members turn... sour... on this new or old member.
    #4- This Group will spend much of their time, bad mouthing this member. Now on the Outs.
    #5- This goes on as long as this Forum Members posts, reacts to a post, or might be reading posts.

    Meet and Greet. If you do not want to be introduced to the "Group", you are now the target. Unless, you are smart and know what you are talking about, defending yourself.

    I am focused upon Bubble Craps and the piece of lumber and layout, called a Craps Table. Both require intelligence and Craps Skills. One is not preferred over the other. They are both Games of Chance.

    One is not more superior to the other, elbow to elbow at the Craps Table, or the Bubble Craps. Bubble Craps actually is a bit more... difficult, due to the wagering on a computer screen and not glaze eyed upon finding your wagers on a Craps Table layout.

    From following current threads... I do not need any Craps Friends or Buddies off of the Forum. I will not alter my opinions for... 'friends'. I do not discuss Craps, except on a Public Forum, as my words could be taken to mean about anything and posted as person to person "QUOTES by SevenOut".

    I get it. TDV obviously made the mistake, as myself. Some others, as well. If someone were to say the things that have been said to TDV and several others... you will be lucky if I show you to the door... while it is open.

    Those at the present, know who I am speaking. A couple of you are fresh in my mind. I enjoy debating Craps, but if you cannot focus on Dice and a Craps Table... remove me from you list of... SUCKERS.
     
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  9. Mssthis1, Sep 3, 2018

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    I don't understand why you feel that way. Golfers, tennis players, and many other skill sports use slo mo video to improve their game. Knowing exactly what happens as the dice leave your hand and or contact the felt is invaluable data.

    You can use that data to hone your skill to toss that extra hard eight or whatever your goal is.
     
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  10. twodicebilly, Sep 3, 2018

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    GTC used video to focus on your shot, grip and so forth. that was a nice addition to
    their class because it was something that a student with a problem in either could take home and
    review.

    Rick used it to show that dice do not stay on axis the entire shot, again a useful tool.

    But then a couple of others decided to use it as a tool against dice setters, if the dice did not do
    the exact same thing during each roll, then there could not possibly be any control or influence.

    Even good things can be used poorly by people that have an agenda


    tdb
     
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  11. superrick, Sep 3, 2018

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    Nice SuperRick here, now some of these videos have been taking down for some odd reason and I'm not going out there to try to find more of them. You asked for the videos and here you go. Everybody that thinks they are a shooter should look at the dice and what they do when they hit the tables!


    Knowledge is the key to winning at craps and knowing how to bet the game. I've never said that I win every time that I go to a casino. I've always said that before they coined the words Dice Controler everybody was just shooters!


    The DI schools came up with random rollers and by the way that was one of Mp's favorite things to write about. If you were going to win at craps you couldn't bet on the so-called random rollers!


    Now, I do have to apologize to anybody that didn't want to see these again like DeMango.

    Is there anybody you know in these videos?











    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkU458iCDiY&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hheh7c6J77Y&index=34&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOOULZHKNo0&feature=youtu.be

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NaIs8y_hE&index=37&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jej4WNRGyR8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZf3jbjie0&list=UUfDRf2L1rCEgYtGFlS_z9ag

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS-R8XYUjhs&list=PL29EB7437F6533C12

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pu1F0D_9g

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_wQN7MELc

    This guy found 172 videos on throwing the dice or dice control and put them all in one spot for your viewing pleasure and he surely saved me a lot of work!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrqyVrQWck&list=PL57YTXgE9UrKJJZsOGpdaFhWAEETRt-rU

    Let's not forget the one guy that had the best set-up for dice control, Aaron Hightower who went the extra mile to try to prove that dice control either work or it didn't. I have to give him a high-five for all of the work he put into it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QS26ppbc8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBJwLtAORa0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSfu5QDDVA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM3qDV9Lz3Y

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTzwChYv0U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I
     
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  12. Mssthis1, Sep 3, 2018

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    Agree 100% about those who make that statement, Money management and betting strategy for what each individual is looking for in a satisfying session of craps is more important.

    If you want to video my toss, I'll claim it as my toss and I'll even pick you up at the airport.

    I have no fairy tails to tell that I always toss long hands. As a matter of fact I haven't tossed what I consider a long hand (40 rolls with no comeout sevens) in a long time.
     
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  13. superrick, Sep 3, 2018

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    Nice SuperRick here, Mssthis1, for years I've tried to put out good information that would help others win at craps!


    On this board, I learned that for doing so that I was arrogant and now even accused of stopping the great fiction writer the madprofessor from stop posting on the DI boards. I'm glad that my wife started slipping whatever she is putting in my drinks.


    For some odd reason, players do not want the truth about what they do on the craps tables and they rather read fiction than know the truth! Some DI schools used the great Mp to sell what they were teaching unfortunately for them I live in Vegas and play all of the time and anything that Mp wrote just didn't add up.


    The great stories he told of some of the casinos that I worked in didn't even come close to the truth. I started posting my videos to counteract all of the lies that Mp was posting. So when I traveled to places that he wrote about that he was playing at others could see that what he wrote was just fiction!


    The one thing that always got me was you had guys that lived in NY close border and they would never think about going to Fallsview casino to play craps! That is where the great fiction wrote that he played all of the time on the high limit tables there. It was just too bad that they didn't have high limit tables! No, what they had was a table that at sometimes they would raise the table limit to $50 maybe on a weekend!


    While I was there on a weekend the table was at $25! I do get around and have played where the fiction writer wrote about winning on his road trips. One of those trips was to Suger House casino which turned out to be the worst casino that I ever played in because it's an intercity casino and all of their players still thought that they were playing street craps!

    I guess that players would rather live in denial than to know the truth about playing craps. As they say, you just can't fix stupid. If you want to win at craps you have to know the truth about playing it.

    While I have to admit that I did have to fly and drive to these casinos and I couldn't walk to them so maybe just maybe someone on this board may live closer to them than I do!



     
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  14. James Hall, Sep 3, 2018

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    Because it is a fact.
    You have no idea how true that is. As a golf professional
    I taped my swing on a regular basis.
    I tape the guys I work with on a regular basis
    so they know exactly what is happening and
    are better able to deal with problems , should
    they creep into their delivery.
    The majority of people could look at these tapes
    and have no earthly idea what is happening
    Displaying them to the ignorant would be a
    TOTAL WASTE OF TIME
     
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  15. James Hall, Sep 3, 2018

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    What ever happened to Aaron Hightower???
     
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  16. RightMath, Nov 2, 2018

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    If your chances of winning are 46/100 46% or 82/100 82% or even 99/100 99% why would you gamble?
    The math does not support winning. A 1 in a 1024 lose ( 1/1024) even 1 in 8096 lose (1/8096).
    Losing 10 to 15 bets in a row happens all the time.
    In fact losing Ten to Thirteen in a row losses, Happens every 200-400 bets.
    Nobody who understands math would ever gamble.
    Using any of the over two hundred systems/strategies. http://www.starchip.com/crapdata.htm
    They all cause you to lose. So even if you have a .999, That's 99.9% chance of winning.
    Guess what? You are going to lose your pants, and whats in your pants. Thanks to .001 or .1%.
    So if you insist on gambling, and would like to win over time.
    You need remember something you were taught in grade school.
    What you need to do is go back and re-learn/study grade school math.
    What would happen if you change .999 to (Say 2.0 To 10.0)
    As a child you probably did not notice. They taught you how to do this in Grade School.
    (By the way .999 can be changed to anything from 1.00 to 10.00 or more. Give or take.)
    If the gambling math you are using does not work. Then you are not doing the RightMath.
    Remember You heard it here first. (Mike's Ladder)/RightMath
     
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    If your chances of winning are 46/100 46% or 82/100 82% or even 99/100 99% why would you gamble?
    The math does not support winning. A 1 in a 1024 lose ( 1/1024) even 1 in 8096 lose (1/8096).
    Losing 10 to 15 bets in a row happens all the time.
    In fact losing Ten to Thirteen in a row losses, Happens every 200-400 bets.
    Nobody who understands math would ever gamble.
    Using any of the over two hundred systems/strategies. http://www.starchip.com/crapdata.htm
    They all cause you to lose. So even if you have a .999, That's 99.9% chance of winning.
    Guess what? You are going to lose your pants, and whats in your pants. Thanks to .001 or .1%.
    So if you insist on gambling, and would like to win over time.
    You need remember something you were taught in grade school.
    What you need to do is go back and re-learn/study grade school math.
    What would happen if you change .999 to (Say 2.0 To 10.0)
    As a child you probably did not notice. They taught you how to do this in Grade School.
    (By the way .999 can be changed to anything from 1.00 to 10.00 or more. Give or take.)
    If the gambling math you are using does not work. Then you are not doing the RightMath.
    Remember You heard it here first. (Mike's Ladder)/RightMath
     
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  18. RightMath, Nov 2, 2018

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    If your chances of winning are 46/100 46% or 82/100 82% or even 99/100 99% why would you gamble?
    The math does not support winning. A 1 in a 1024 lose ( 1/1024) even 1 in 8096 lose (1/8096).
    Losing 10 to 15 bets in a row happens all the time.
    In fact losing Ten to Thirteen in a row losses, Happens every 200-400 bets.
    Nobody who understands math would ever gamble.
    Using any of the over two hundred systems/strategies. http://www.starchip.com/crapdata.htm
    They all cause you to lose. So even if you have a .999, That's 99.9% chance of winning.
    Guess what? You are going to lose your pants, and whats in your pants. Thanks to .001 or .1%.
    So if you insist on gambling, and would like to win over time.
    You need remember something you were taught in grade school.
    What you need to do is go back and re-learn/study grade school math.
    What would happen if you change .999 to (Say 2.0 To 10.0)
    As a child you probably did not notice. They taught you how to do this in Grade School.
    (By the way .999 can be changed to anything from 1.00 to 10.00 or more. Give or take.)
    If the gambling math you are using does not work. Then you are not doing the RightMath.
    Remember You heard it here first. (Mike's Ladder)/RightMath
     
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  19. yacraps, Nov 3, 2018

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    Mike..... I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say could you post it again :)
     
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  20. The Comeback Kid, Nov 3, 2018

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