Here's a little advice!

Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. tabletop123, Apr 29, 2016

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    Howard, i ask this question respectfully,,,,,, WHY go on a Public Forum & announce that Dice Influencing works? Wouldnt it be smarter to recruit potential students in a more discreet manner?
     
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  2. Harley, Apr 29, 2016

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    Wow ... Howard Rock n Roller Admitting to stealing intellectual property and using it to profit .... and extortion tactics to sensor SuperRick's opinions ... and admitting to collaborating with SnakeEyes in using strong-arm extortion

    As the title of this thread indicates - Here is Florida Law Howard:

    836.05 Threats; extortion.—Whoever, either verbally or by a written or printed communication, maliciously threatens to accuse another of any crime or offense, or by such communication maliciously threatens an injury to the person, property or reputation of another, or maliciously threatens to expose another to disgrace, or to expose any secret affecting another, or to impute any deformity or lack of chastity to another, with intent thereby to extort money or any pecuniary advantage whatsoever, or with intent to compel the person so threatened, or any other person, to do any act or refrain from doing any act against his or her will, shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
    History.—s. 42, sub-ch. 3, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2420; GS 3261; RGS 5092; CGL 7194; s. 1, ch. 57-254; s. 991, ch. 71-136; s. 1307, ch. 97-102.​
     
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  3. Settingcanthurt, Apr 29, 2016

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  4. Settingcanthurt, Apr 29, 2016

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    Half my brain says it must be related to the swing one must make with consistency.
    As if a golf pro with a perfect swing, could ever make a hole in one on the same par 3 again and again and again........

    Might as well have a perfect cast in the lake and bring up a 5 lb bass every time.
     
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  5. Onautopilot, Apr 29, 2016

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    The problem with the analogy, is that the golfer is not expected to make a hole in one....but their skill level is measurable We know how skilled they are based on measurable results. The game is designed to test one's skills, and it is also designed to reward the skilled player....not to defeat that skill.

    Casinos design the game of craps to defeat any attempt at skilled dice tossing, not reward it!

    The very nature of the two different games makes any comparison unrealistic!
     
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  6. TDVegas, Apr 29, 2016

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    You can set up a wall full of rubberized pyramids. 20 feet long, 10 feet high. Then ask a professional baseball pitcher and Grandma Moses to throw a ball at the wall. In both cases, from 60 feet...no one is going to be able to predict which direction the ball will go when it hits the pyramids. They randomize. A pretty toss is meaningless.

    Same applies to pro golfer, tennis player or any other sport you want to throw out there as a comparison.

    You're not getting past the FACT that once it hits the deformed pyramids---the result is random. You have no idea that once they hit, will they go left or right or straight back.

    It's called random result coupled with less than fair payouts. It's worked for 100+ years and no one to date has cracked that seal.
     
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  7. Settingcanthurt, Apr 29, 2016

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    Not unrealistic at all in fact you are enforcing the analogy. Golf courses are as you is designed to be defeated, just ask Jordan Spieth. The swing analogy is the link. K.I.S.S.
     
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    Excellent words. May I suggest you use them as your Quote at the bottom of your Posts??
     
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  9. Pressit, Apr 29, 2016

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    It is also a violation of federal law, 18 USC 875 (c), a felony max time 5 years. Plus not to mention all the legal cost, fines, a permanent record, probation. Plus more importantly might result in the force closing of this forum. Seriously one should never be foolish enough to post physical threats.
     
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    TT. Have to ask you this.
    What kind of toss were you using that got you to a 63 roll hand?
    How did a 63 roll terminate into a loss?
    Can you explain how you were betting?
     
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  11. TDVegas, Apr 29, 2016

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    Intellectual property on a dice toss??

    You guys are watching too many Perry Mason reruns.
    There isn't a lawyer on this planet that would take this case.
     
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  12. superrick, Apr 29, 2016

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    I don't need to write about laws, all I need to write about is friends or better put players that say they are your friend so they can gain a financial profit from someone else's hard work.

    It has become quite obvious what Howard is all about, to a lot of guys that have seen the true color of what Howard is doing and that is the money that he can make off other players, not the tables! Karma is one hell of a thing, bad karma comes back to bite those that do bad things in the butt, like lying about them. Heavy and Howard is finding out how it works after all these years of lying about Harley and myself!


    Howard and Heavy I was told only had two students in their last class, the rest of the guys that were there were fill in's that had taken the class before the rest was local guys that they love to write that don't know what they are doing.

    Yeah, Howard, Karma is hell , Karma will take care of the stuff that you have done.
     
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  13. TDVegas, Apr 29, 2016

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    We've all been there. The long rolls, hitting point after point. There is likely no one here that can't recall a session(s) like that.

    That's not the problem. Whether it's Howard, Heavy or any of the other DI based community or those that claim to be advantage craps players...rarely if ever do you hear about their bad sessions.

    Only an idiot thinks they don't happen.

    So, how is Howard different than anyone else? Trust me, he's not.

    And the cycle continues....

    Howard may be the nicest guy in the world but his continued claim on "world records" is nauseating, especially since there is no such records in craps on anything. Does he not get that? Where are the casino employees on record backing up or confirming his "record"?

    Is Guinness involved?
     
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  14. tabletop123, Apr 29, 2016

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    Will pm you the details later tonight
     
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  15. Pressit, Apr 29, 2016

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    Thanks
     
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  16. UnderCoverDieThug, Apr 29, 2016

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    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. HERES UCDT LAW NUMBA 86.1.4a, PEARA GRAF 2: IF YA EVER POST NUTHA MUTHA FUCKIN BOGUS LAW NUMBA AGEN, ILL SHIT DOWN YA THROAT TIL YA CHOKE AND MAKE ALL YOUR SO CALLED VEGAS FRIENDS IN SUPERDICK, LITTLE BLOW CREW, VDC AND DAT SNAKECOCKEYE X WANNABE A COP CLEAN YOUR FAT ASS UP OUT OF DA ALLEY.

    BETTA YET. ID WIPE SUM THESE THERE CRABS I GOT FROM DA HO LAST WEEK. SHIT STIL ITCHIN. CANT SEEM TO SHAKE IT.

    YOU MUTHAFUCKAS NEED TO HAVE A SHOOTOFF TO SETTLE DA SCORE ON WHOS DA GREATEST DI NEXT TO ME AND MY TWIN THUGASS BRUTHA FROM A DIFFA MUTHA. WHOMEVER LOSES HAS TO STAY OFF DESE BOARDS FOR A YEAR BITCHES. FEEL ME?

    NOW HOP UP ON MY SHINE BOX!
     
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    so does superrick has a patent on file in the patent office for that shot?

    Wait, forget about that, he has a shot that is the super duper kill em all the time shot and he shared it?

    ok, I don't get it.

    that's like giving your pin code out for your atm card.
     
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  18. lone irish digit, Apr 29, 2016

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    I invented the Helicopter toss at the Frontier back in 1973. I consider it a proprietary toss although it was widely known in Vegas as the Tornado Toss back then. So does somebody owe me some money? Also Heavy said he may start teaching a proprietary Doug toss. I've tossed that toss since the 80's but had to give up on it because it hit too many stickman and players hands. Back then it was known as the rollercoaster toss.
     
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  19. superrick, Apr 29, 2016

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    Oh, Heavy, isn't karma hell?
     
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  20. $nakeEye$, Apr 29, 2016

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    I just want to leave you with these parting thoughts -

    After this post I am loooooong gone from this charade which was originally designed to offer insight and feed back on the casino game of craps -

    Unfortunately, this site has become degraded to such an extent that civil communication between certain parties is virtually impossible -

    This is NOT the fault of the moderator - but - the fault of ALL - including myself -

    Who have digressed / stooped to the level of a few individuals who have NO regard / respect -

    Not only for others - but - more importantly - no respect for themselves !

    I have NO desire to continue to partake in this bull shit for a moment longer -

    I wish you all the best in life and at the tables !

    Adios ! y vaya con Dios !

    $...eE..$
     
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