Here's a little advice!

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  1. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    I did not post this thread under Dice Influencing because it will only open up a can of worms, i will say that settng the dice as the Guru's teach is TOTALLY useless, Why? Simply because setting the dice as they recommend 2V, 3V, Hardways, etc, DOES NOT WORK, the reason is because what they profess requires perfect execution & that aint gonna happen. You can set the dice ALL DAY long, THINKING that the top numbers that you set are gonna appear. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! End results from dice tosses will NOT end up AS EXPECTED a GREAT majority of the time. if it did, there'd be a slew of rich Di's making the Casinos their personal ATM machines, The Gurus have hood winked you! Without getting into the intracacies of Dice Sets, i will say this: EVERY Dice Set that you use should be designed for receiving results that are gonna imperfect. Expecting anything else is just delusional thinking!
     
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  2. Twelve4s, Apr 27, 2016

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    Let's get scientific and analytical and philosophical all at once and for all: The best dice influence by far comes from shooters with BIG HOOTERS. That's the only sets I m influenced by!
     
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  3. lone irish digit, Apr 27, 2016

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    And like the emperor said "let the games begin."
     
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  4. Twelve4s, Apr 27, 2016

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    Since when does anybody pitch curve balls from second base? Oh yeah, when the short stop picks off a runner at home plate. How often would a major league pitcher be in the strike zone if his fastball had to bounce of the ground first?
     
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  5. lone irish digit, Apr 27, 2016

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    Wha happened?
     
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  6. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Well, explain to me WHY all of these GREAT shooters dont bet any more than $18 6& 8'S & they have these 59 roll hands & only make $200 off of the hands, These Gurus are so confident about their skills, but wont bet that fat meat is Greasy! Trust & believe that i possess a VERY DEFT touch at MOST hand eye games/crafts, A 50 ball straight pool runner at the age of 11, A very proficient three Card monte expert AT THE AGE OF 11, One of the top ten bank pool players in the country. Bottom line is this: 90% of what you Gurus proclaim is pure "Fluff"! I know people that have played with these Gurus (other than Superrick) , & as i said before....... most of it is all fluff. I have tossed MANY 50 & 60, 70 roll hands, IN THE CASINOS. Just tossed a 63 roll stunner & still lost. Poor money management ,but thats another story. However, i will agree that SOME are bitter, However, its not me because i have NEVER spent a penny on a class & the money that i have pissed away was lost waaaaaayy before i started trying to influence the dice, All i am saying is that you guys paint this beautiful picture of comped meals, Mega rolls, & making good money in the Casinos, What about the PSO's, losing sessions, & reloading of bankrolls? Let's talk about THAT! I am not as Cynical As TD, but i do play Craps on a regular basis, & have lived in a Casino for months, I do practice on a real table _even though it means NOTHING! All we hear from you Gurus is 40. 50 roll hands, Hands in the low teens, etc, listen, i understand that you guys are just trying trying make a living with your classes, lessons, etc, but no need in bullshitting people with fabricated stories, Give people the truth, & this way they can make intellgent decisions on how they spend their money,.., given the FACTS! As far as toss technique goes........ i am willing to WAGER that Howard, Heavy, irish, Mad Dog Leap frog or whoever else's toss/s dont get any better results than mine!
     
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  7. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Sorry about the jumbled post.Guess it could use a little paragraphing, but i am posting on my phone. In closing i will say that the Clunkers, losing sessions, etc that these Gurus have are like reading the fine print on a Anabolic Steroids bottle,,,......... HARD TO FIND!
     
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  8. TDVegas, Apr 27, 2016

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    If Howard needs friends, comraderie...then invite people to play with him. He doesn't need their money. He should have his own based on his own talents. Charging for a bootlicker to stand next to him seems strange.

    Howard is like all the rest--he can claim anything he wants. He can claim to be the best shooter under the sun (how exactly is that quantified is a mystery), he can claim whatever he wants.

    TDVegas is the best bubble player out there. You will not find a better player. You will not find someone more adept at timing when to push the button. My split shot is unmatched.

    If you believe any of this---call Howard. He needs clients.
     
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    I really hate it when people like you and TDvegas try to apply common sense and logic here.
    shame on you.(that's a joke tt)
    you are bursting so many bubbles here(not craps bubbles)
     
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  10. Howard rock n roller, Apr 27, 2016

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    I erased my post because I didn't want to hurt Tabletop's feelings. He seemed frustrated that he wasn't having.good rolls at the table.and was giving up.

    I'd like to encourage him to take DI lessons and practice... If one toss isn't working for you, there are alternate tosses that might help.
     
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  11. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Wasnt gonna say this, because i have no animosity towards Howard, because Frankly i dont even know him. But here goes,,..... i have spoken to people that have played (a lot) with Howard, & those were people OTHER than Superrick. Howard has PSO's, & short hands JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! You never hear the detailed reports about short rolls & losing sessions, What you nornally hear goes something like this: We were at the XYZ Casino & Bullfrog got hot & tossed a 35 roll hand, Then "long Roll" followed it up with a nice hand in the twenties. It gets even better because "Never has a losing hand" followed up with a 40 roll heater, After that roll, we all got comped a $2,000 meal, so life is good! Now here's the report on a losing session: We arrived at XYZ casino, Everyone took their spots, & i took my position at Straight Out! The table was bouncy & we couldnt get anything going! NOT what REALLY happened, which probably went something like this: We stunk like pure shit & no one could muster a hand over 6 rolls, & we all list 50% of our buy ins!
     
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  12. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Well liman, i will always respect your opinions because you play QUITE FREQUENTLY! You reveal your losses just as much as your wins, Hard NOT to respect that! The problem is that most Di's want me to endorse their bullshit, & i refuse to do so! Then they turn around with bullshit like: TableTop just cant do it, He just cannot cut the mustard. NEWS FLASH: TabeTop does it VERY well. Only problem is that its STILL random, or M AYBE just a pubic Hair better than random. Question is: Will a pubic hair better than randon CONSISTENTLY get you the money?
     
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  13. Howard rock n roller, Apr 27, 2016

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    Tabletop, I didn't mean to upset you. You seem like a nice person.

    All of my trip reports are accurate.
    I give credit to those that I am playing with when they have good rolls, including myself. I never embarrass anyone if their shot is off that day.

    Do I have big rolls everytime I get the dice.. No., nobody does. PSOs happen to everyone. When my toss is on, I do seem to have quite a few good consecutive hands.

    When I come back into Vegas during the summer, I'll be happy to show you some great techniques that will help you..

    If you want to visit me in Florida at my craps pit, I'll give you demonstration of some of my tosses and great lesson.
     
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  14. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Are you serious? Frustrated? About what? Listen, Howard there is NOTHING that you could say that could POSSIBlY hurt my feelings, Believe me i have endured a lot more than criticizm over the internet, Been on my own since the age of 11, Endured two marriages three penitentiaries, & been FLAT ASS broke! Listen, i will PROBAbly never meet anyone on this forum anyways! Got something to say? Share it! This is what forums are for, Expressing of opinions. Howard i have no animosity towards you. My post about Dice Influencing are only MY opinions! Regarding your Casino exploits...........My informatiom is from"OTHERS" that have played with you, i DID say others(plural) , you know there are people other than SR that have played with you. Nothing enbarrassing about pSO's short hands, & losing sessions, Renember, when you are rendering a service, its AlWAYS best to keep things "one humdred," This way there are no repurcussions in the end! Continued success at the Tables!
     
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  15. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Likewise, Howard! Next time you are near ATL, shoot me a PM & i will show you my bag of tricks.
    Now that we have exchanged Pleasantries, i STILL say that you dont shoot any better than the "Top" dont possess any more tosses than the "Top" & i am willing to wager that you dont, Also willing to wager that my tosses are just as glued together as yours. Although i claim no special skills, you seem to forget that my hand/eye coordinated skills as a youth meant the difference between eating or starving on any given day. Wish i coud have had the middle class life in the Suburbs as a kid However, i had more things to do............ like Eating, & trying NOT to sleep on the streets. Maybe i am a little bitter that i had to grow up so fast , devoid of the childhood that most get to experience, but thats life! You try to make the best of what you have!
     
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    TT-I decided its best only to post my losing sessions, trips.
    cant prove any winners, easy to believe losers since everyone has them constantly.
     
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  17. Night Attack, Apr 27, 2016

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    Bullfrog, Long Roll, and Never Has A Losing Hand. Lol.....Good work I needed a chuckle.

    And good idea to not post this in the DI section, that way we can keep it under 1000 posts.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Apr 27, 2016

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    Howard......
    Post your roll sequences.

    ALL of them. Number to number.

    The good, the bad, the ugly.
     
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  19. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    Well, everyone knows that i report all losses. I would love to give bullshit post stating that i an robbing the Casinos & am making a living playing craps, Unfortunately this is not Axis power craps or the dice institue, & certain bullshit gets NoPASS on this forum, i have been very honest in my quests & liman you were correct when you mentiioned a while back that maybe i was still a
    Little sold on the dice influencing thing, i still try to influence the dice, but i realize that AT MY VERY BEST, i am still only a cookie crumb better than random.
     
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  20. tabletop123, Apr 27, 2016

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    NEVER!
     
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