Hedge to win

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  1. Southern-Comfort, Jun 20, 2012

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    Ever consider that it only had so much good luck in it and now you've worn it out? Get another orange shirt and use it wisely! :)
     
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  2. kcadillac, Jun 25, 2012

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    Vegas could care less if you hedge your bet in craps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can make any bet you want at a craps table.
    You may have been watching too many tv shows.
     
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  3. DarkSiderRidah, Jun 26, 2012

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    Ah, hedging. I wouldn't advise doing it on a consistent basis. I would only hedge if its a significant percentage, say 60%, of my bankroll. And when I do hedge, I only bet enough to cover about 75-80% of that initial big bet. I don't like getting all "Negative Nathan" with my own bets because it's true, "scared money don't make money".

    As a Don't Pass player, I like to play numbers particularly 6 n' 8 and sometimes 5 n' 9. Im known to hedge my DP bet with house money after Im fortunate enough to hit a couple of points. Say the point is 4 or 10, (my faves as a darksider) it is less expensive to hedge your DP bet since they pay 9/5, dam near double. Plus if your only looking to insure/hedge 75-80% it takes even less.

    Say your $25 on the DP. point 10 is established. YES! Place $12 on 6 & 8 each. roll is 8. They pay 14+12, is $26. Take it all down then Take $6 from the 6 and put it on the 8 so there's $6 on each the 6 & 8. Finally Place $10 on the point, which was 10, to insure the $25 DP. We're up $4! DP stil pending. With $22 up on the #'s and $25 on the DP if a 7 comes you would profit $3 + the $4 from hitting the 8 earlier for a grand total of $32. if the 10 comes itll pay $18 for the $10 equalling $28 minus $25 DP loss. 6 & 8 stay on for $6 apiece total from that roll $44 up $19.

    The long roll is my fondest homie.

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    Excited about being a part of the Forum. I hope to continue learning how to avoid making the mistakes some of you have paid, what seems to be fortunes, for. :coolsmile:
     
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  4. CrapCheckKing, Aug 3, 2012

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    I guess hedging depends on your bank roll. If you have a $10,000 bank roll. Doesnt make much sense to hedge a $10 p/l bet.

    I actually "hedge" a $10 come out roll with a $1 any crap. Minimizes my losses and keeps me at the table longer, especially if a shooter starts off with multiple craps. I usually only bring between 200-500 with me on any given trip, and it can go fast if a crap shooter rolls 3-4 in a row on the come out. I want to extend my playing time and my bank roll in order to play when the button is ON, so that i'm not tapped out when a hot shooter shows up.

    So $10 pass, with a $1 any crap. Max win $9, max loss $3 is better than max win $10, max loss $10 in my opinion. Again, it's all about minimizing the loss on the come out for me.
     
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  5. Southern-Comfort, Aug 3, 2012

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  6. kaysirtap, Aug 3, 2012

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    Well, you made it really hard to argue with your logic since it is obvious that this is how you feel comfortable playing.

    But I will offer a different perspective. Shaving $1 off of your come-out wins seems like a small price to pay for "saving" $7 on come-out losses. But you're also shaving $1 off of winning points, and adding a $1 loss to your seven-outs. In the grand scheme of things... all of your $7 savings on come-out losers are (or should be, statistically) smaller when compared to all of the $1 reductions in come-out wins and made points, along with all of the additional $1 losses you've added to your seven-outs.

    I'm not trying to change your ways... just giving you something to think about, if you haven't already.
     
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