Heavy wants a DO-OVER for the Biloxi Trip

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  1. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    I am more or less the black sheep of this forum I have practiced controlled throwing for many years, I have 12 foot craps tables in my home I practice throwing every day , once a week my daughter , wife and I practice betting strategies , I can tell you there is nothing like a table to enhance what skill you have
    Many on this forum feel they are unnecessary , practicing any other way would be like trying to learn to play golf by smacking golf balls into a net
    Throwing dice with precision is very difficult and requires a lot of practice
    If you lived in thr Phoenix area I could make my table available for you to practice I have a number of people who do take advantage of that and I charge nothing
    I like to help '
    If I can answer any questions I would try to help
    but watch out for the negative nay Sayers they will tell you , "what you are capable of doing and are doing is impossible"
    I'm happy to help if I can
     
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  2. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    There are two very specific things that must happen for anyone to win

    the biggest problem is some know one
    some know the other but few people learn to put them together
    RESULT ,they lose
    that is not an opinion it's a fact
     
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  3. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    over the years I have talked to many craps players
    Most tell me "I play for fun and when I lose $200 dollars I quit"
    It's been my experience that in many cases that takes an hour or so
    I would rather spend an hour at $200 LEARNING
    than $200 an hour losing
    There is not a hell of a lot you can learn from losing
    I posted a few moments ago there are two things that must happen for anyone to win at craps
    some people know one of those things
    some people know the other
    the people who combine win more frequently
     
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  4. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    Thank you James I am honores
     
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  5. whodat, Jun 23, 2016

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    $200/hour for any lesson is quite a bit in my mind. You might lose $200/hour at the casino or you could win $200/hour. Even if you decide to play PL with 1x odds only on a $10 table ($20 shooter), your expected loss is less than $0.20 per shooter. For an hour of craps, that would be 100(rolls per hour) x$20x 0.00251 (house edge per roll) or $5/hour loss. IN THE LONG RUN, you would lose $200 in 40 hours of play. You could learn a lot at the table by then.
     
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  6. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    the point to what I said was whether to win or lose depends on knowing how and almost anybody would agree it does the
    cheapest way to success is to learn even if you have to pay
    I have no idea what people charge for such services I just know I would rather pay and learn to win than just keep losing
    My experience on the craps table I doubt that I have ever witnessed anyone losing $200 and taking 40 hours to do it
    You can learn a lot in 40 hours
    My question always is Why would anyone spend 40 hours for $200 when for that same $200 and a lot less time someone could tell them how to win??
     
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  7. whodat, Jun 23, 2016

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    I have not paid a single penny for a lesson on dice. I have read a lot of material, asked a lot of questions, and played 6-8 times a year in the past year. I am more than satisfied with my crap play.
    Could I improve? Absolutely.
    Would I spend money on a seminar like Dom or Heavy? Absolutely NOT
    Would I go to SR and Harley's clinic--which is free? Yes.

    I like to choose how I spend my money as far as lessons are concerned, and that is my opinion/advise for Eddie.
     
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  8. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 23, 2016

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    LOL... you be surprised at how many Craps dealers have no clue. I have seen dice sliders work the tables where some call comes to the pit boss who then goes running over to the table to tell the shooter that the dice must 'BOUNCE' off the table surface and off the backwall.

    The assumption that the Dealers know all the tricks in the book is very naive.
     
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  9. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 23, 2016

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    So James....

    What exactly are you selling here? Humm? :D:D:D:D
     
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  10. whodat, Jun 23, 2016

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    I wouldn't mind being at the table with a dice slider until he gets kicked out:D:D:D
     
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  11. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    WhoDat
    what works works , no one can argue with that
    if a person reaches a level of satisfaction he set out for , what else is needed??
    No one knows what you want but you
    if you have accomplished what you want that is all that matters
    success , in part is achieving the goals we set for ourselves
    sounds like you have made it ,, that is great
     
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    I have the house I am living in sold moving out in July
    I have a nice rental in Houston I would sell , a couple of pickups , probably 25 sets of golf clubs and a 55 gallon fiber barrel full of used golf balls
    What are you looking for specifically ???
     
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  13. Onautopilot, Jun 23, 2016

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    I not only went to college, I taught college courses as an off campus instructor for a few years.

    But you are right, I don't pay anyone for instruction in something they do not have any skill in, and even less knowledge of the task.....dice control being the primary one of those bogus "schools".
     
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  14. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    Just curious , have you attended any?
     
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    I attended several card counting seminars....got more than my monies worth!

    I investigated DC theories, and claims, and having a fair understanding of basic physics, I had my doubts. But I gave it a try, read a lot, watched some videos, did some practice, kept statistics, watched some so called DC wannabees..........Then I drew my own conclusions, based on logic and critical thinking.

    If someone has obtained the skill at DC, they ain't teaching it, and if someone is teaching it, they are not skilled DC'ers.....period!
     
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  16. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    Dice influence does work you just have to put out the mind and effort to maka it to your advantage
    Oh autopilot, from the looks of it being a skilled bettor in craps is awesome. But being just a random roller and not calculating your sets along with your throws just makes the person not worthy of shooting if he can't make it even pass 5 rolls.
     
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  17. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 23, 2016

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    Well, when they arrest him they will also arrest you as an accomplice. The casinos will simply let the courts sort it out and get back to business.
     
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  18. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 23, 2016

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    Well James...

    Are you looking to come to Vegas and 'School' us boys in how to play craps, provided on our generosity? Humm? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:o_O
     
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  19. James Hall, Jun 23, 2016

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    I can't do anything until I get my alimony checks from my ex wives
    I am supposed to have them no later than the 18th of the month and every damned one of them are late
    I should get them when they get home from Vegas
     
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    where does this stuff come from?

    I guess theyd have to arrest the other 11 players at the table since if the person is hitting numbers, so is everyone else.
     
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