GROUP / TEAM PLAY IN ATLANTIC CITY

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  1. $nakeEye$, Oct 1, 2011

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    Are you like me and starting to get tired of constantly have to deal with the " chicken feeder " type of craps shooter -

    AKA - the " Shake, Rattle and Roller " type shooter -

    AKA - the " Grip 'em and Rip 'em " person -

    If so - I have a simple and straight forward proposal for any and all concerned -

    Why not get together , join forces and either totally take a table over -

    Or at the least; have a viable number of knowedgable shooters together at a table -

    I've recently been spending time with Linda going from casino to casino - table to table, in each of those casinos and have come to the conclusion that there has to be a better way to enhance one's chances to pull consistent profits from thoses tables / casinos -

    There might be 1, 2 or even half of the table who exhibit some semblence of a knowledgable and deliberate type of player -

    Yeah, you know who I'm referring to -

    The one that sets the dice and has a deliberate consistant delivery -

    Doesn't always have long hands - but produce a lot of repeatable point numbers -

    Money Maker$ -

    If interested -

    Here's my proposal -

    1. Each player has his own bankroll and method / style of play - NO SHARED BANKROLLS -

    2. Each player SHOULD be able to shoot / throw from more the 1 position - with equal precision - in the event your preferred position in unavailable -

    3. Play would probably have to be on weekends due to the fact most of us have committments ( work ) during the week - but not necessarily the only time(s) available -

    4. Play should be relegated to the 12' tables and restricted to a $10 minimun table as the highest betting level - face it people $5 tables are few and far between - $15 and $25 tables do not interest my bankroll - at the present time-

    5. The ONLY purpose of this is to try and get a group of practiced shooters together, where we can benefit from each others hours of practice and liberate mucho $ from the casinos - and possibly have a fun time together on and off the tables !

    I am certain that there will be comments pro and con to this proposal -

    I am most interested to hear your comments - either good , bad or indifferent !

    Just looking for a change for the better !

    P.S. -

    Linda and I will be away until Tuesday P.M -

    Going to AC to try and win a few " $heckle - eckel$ " -

    Wanted to get this out before we leave in the AM .
     
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  2. idoc

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    I would be interested if I lived closer to AC. Although I will be there for the first time in a while on the last week of this month.
     
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  3. Hardeight, Oct 3, 2011

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    ok I'll join your team...I will take the bUs to AC but I prefer Monday to Thursday when then bus is less crowded.The bus is there for 6 hours so I can meet you from 2 to 6:30
     
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  4. BigBen, Oct 3, 2011

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    I'd also be interested, if the day & time slot is right (due to work).

    Just need to work-out the details.

    BigBen
     
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    Same here, I'm avail during mid-week for the next 2wks, otherwise it will have to be a Fri night or Sat. (Have church on Sun)
    My preferred shooting position is SL1 or SL2, my backup positions are on the ends, but I have to be lined up on the end, not off to the hook or something.

    Also, I would be willing to meet up with others in Harrah's Chester in PA.
    They offer 5x odds, pay the vig after the buy hits, and the tables have a decent bounce.
     
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  6. Hardeight, Oct 3, 2011

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    This is what we should been doing all along instead of arging on this form...JOIN FORCES AND MAKE SOME CHEDDAR!!!
     
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  7. BigBen, Oct 4, 2011

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    Forgot to mention that my preferred position is SL1, as I shoot UH from there.

    Also, if I'm at SL1, I'm happy to move out of the way so SL2 can inch-up to SL1. ;)

    10' or 12' tables OK.

    I suggest staying away fro the "B" place off the beaten path.
    Last time I played there, the tables were ultra bouncy.


    Das Boot, C's, H's, even the G-N has some nice tables to shoot on.

    I also know someone in NJ that arranges Private Tables to shoot on, and I played on one 2 weeks ago at Das Boot (a 10 footer)!
    So if you want to go that way, we can do that too. It gets roped off, and it'll keep everyone else away!

    BigBen
     
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    By "Das Boot", do you mean Showboat? Haven't been there for a while, but as I recall, the smoking table is good, the tables in front of the asian pit that are parallel are bad - bouncy, but the one that is perpendicular to the asian pit is very hard, like slate on a pool table.
    Borgota definitely has 16 footers that are bouncy.
    Harrah's has 12-14 footers, but they are still slightly bouncy.
    Bally's is good, and Ridge is great.
    Caesar's is a good place.
    Haven't played at Plaza in a while, there was a Korean floor named Hong or something that was really paranoid and always gave heat, or instructed the box and dealers to give heat.
    Haven't played at Resorts for quite a while, but some tables were ok.

    Private/reserved games are good, if the casino/crew aren't nasty/paranoid. The problem is they usually require a large buy in from the high roller (I believe at least $20k) with the accompanying higher table limit (usually like $100), unless prior arrangements are made for the "friends" to play at a lower level ($5-$10) - that is way out of my league and bankroll. If, however that can be arranged - that would be the ideal playing environment.
     
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  9. BigBen, Oct 4, 2011

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    You are correct about the joints.

    I also belong to a few other Craps boards for many years, been playing for about 30 years.

    Being that I don't know too many people here, IMHO it's a good idea not to mention the casino names in a public forum (if you find a good table to shoot on), just in case there are casino trolls out browsing the forums searching for the casino names.


    The Private Table we shot on was only a $15 min.
    There was no pre-set BI amount though.
    Crew was fantastic as well.

    I actually hit the 5 Fire 2 weeks ago, but I couldn't make the dang 6 though, to complete it!

    And when I played there this past Sunday, the Crew remembered me and my oldest son!

    BigBen
     
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  10. eagledice, Oct 4, 2011

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    BigBen

    Congrats on the 5 out of 6 on the Firebet. I hope you had the max bet on it.

    Just for the heck of it, since then how many 6's have you hit since then????? Isn't that the way it always goes. I was at the Meadows, near Pittsburgh,the beginning of August with the $5 Firebet and hit 5 of 6. Guess what my 6th point was? Yes the 6. I was happy for the max payout ( $1,250.00 - $5 at 250 times ). Actually I thought I made it when the dice came up 5,2 I thought they were 4,2. Hey, happy to get that far. One day hopefully.

    Again, congrats on the firebet and have read your private table report on the other board, so maybe toss in a mini trip report here to get some of the members on the fence ready to jump in.

    Eagledice
     
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  11. $nakeEye$, Oct 4, 2011

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    I live in North Jersey - Parsippany - to be exact -

    Approx. 1 1/2 - 2 hours north of AC -

    This Monday is a Holiday - Columbus Day -

    Anyone interested in hooking up at AC over this weekend ?

    OR -

    Monday - Tuesday and/or Wednesday ?

    If so kindly reply with your availability - dates and times -

    We will make something work - for sure !

    Weekends can be either " Break It or Make It " at the AC and PA casinos -

    An exorbitant amount of " Winger - dingers " -

    It almost makes me want to by my own casino and have " wall to wall " craps tables in it -

    No slots - No Poker - No BJ - Nothing but wall to wall craps tables - All $5 min -

    By the end of the 1st month I'd walk away from it with too much $ -


    Back on track -

    I think this silly idea can work for the benefit of us all -

    The only problem is -

    We have no central " mail room " " meeting place " - aside from this forum - so to speak - to organize everyone -

    And without that - it will take a considerable amount of inguinity to get this off the ground !

    Perhaps our own " TOPIC " would be beneficial ?

    Could be entitled " Team Play " or whatever -

    Sub-topics could be by locales and dates ?

    Jacob -

    If you are out there - which I am sure that you are -

    What is your take on ALL of the above ?
     
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  12. $nakeEye$, Oct 5, 2011

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    Linda and I were in AC last Sunday -

    Conversed with a fella at TE in Caeser's regarding an Oriental fella's throwing " prowess " -

    Later on as we were making our way north to other casinos' this fella - who was with his son - remarked to us - " Are you following us " as we actually were ahead of them and they were following us !

    Familiar or not ?

    Also shot briefly at the same table at Ceaser's with them - at opposite ends of the table !
     
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  13. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 5, 2011

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    Back in the day a few of us newsgroupies started an informal e-mail list on which we exchanged tales and planned meet-ups in Las Vegas. That might be a way for a team to communicate.
     
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  14. Hardeight, Oct 5, 2011

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    ok Wednesday is a good possibility.What casino?I prefer Ballys,Wild West or Caesars because its close to the bus stop.Or even Showboat,Resorts, as long as its downtown close to the bus stop
     
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    Well today is Wed, do you mean today? If so, it's a little short notice.
    Or did you mean next Wed (10/12)?
    If it's 10/12, I can't make it - have to pick up a friend from the airport...

    How about tomorrow, 10/6-Thurs, or a day trip for 10/7-Fri?
     
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  16. Hardeight, Oct 5, 2011

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    I meant Wednesday October 12

    I say if the whole team cant make its ok maybe we could meet each other at future times.As long as we recognize each other
     
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  17. BigBen, Oct 9, 2011

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    My buddy Amato G in NJ said he could arrange a Private Table for us any day we'd like!

    Let's figure something out.

    We shot on that 10' table a few weeks ago, had a blast.

    BB
     
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    I can't do 10/12-Wed.

    I can do later in the after 10/13-Thurs, or 10/14-Fri AM or early noon.

    Could the table be a $5 table?

    Let me know.
     
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  19. $nakeEye$, Oct 9, 2011

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    BigBen -

    I amongst others - presumably and hopefully -

    Would be most interested -

    Check with " Amato G in NJ " and report back as to exactly what the criteria is for the " private " table -

    E.G. - Table mins - Buy in Mins - Betting Mins - etc......

    Thanks in advance -

    Also - in which casino ????? - and At what hour(s ) ?????????

    Personally, I would be most interested in seeing what this group can accomplish together and individually -

    I have no doubt " WE " would kick ass !
     
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  20. BigBen, Oct 9, 2011

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    Here's Amato's reply:

    $1000 Buy-In per person is good.

    You know I always get the 10 footer at "The Boat", and as long as the guys keep tipping the dealers, they will stay there all day.

    Post that I can pretty much get a Private Table anytime as long as I provide at least 1 weeks notice.


    I can set it at $10 Minimum Bets as long as there is one "High Roller" there.
    I have 4 different guys that can anchor a table as the "High Roller", as long as there are good shooters there.
    Must be at "The Boat" though, as that is where they never break my balls.
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    I asked Amato if you MUST BI for $1000 (I have no issues with that, especially because we'll have our own Private Table & Crew), just waiting to hear back now.
    They require at least one "High-Roller", which Amato knows of several to bring along too.
    Amato is a good guy, and he'll always lookout for his clients.

    <u>With respect to tipping</u>:
    I usually Piggy-Back $1 on my PL Bet for the Crew, and then either $1 or $2 Piggy-Back in Odds for the Crew too.

    BigBen
     
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