Game Plan??

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Badcompany12, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. Freddyy, Mar 5, 2018

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    So, tweeked my plan a bit. Did some maths and this might suprise you.

    Best results I got was.

    6&8 12$ each. Wait for two outside box number and see the trend to take another number to start spreading bets. No come bets. All bets are pressed 1 number at a time.

    Make 6&8 look like:
    12-30-30-66-90-150-150-150-240-510-510-900...

    Progression on 5&9 :
    10-25-35-60-100-100-175-250-500-750...

    4&10
    10-25-50-75-150-250-500...

    Worst I saw was a 600$ losing streak. On a very cold streak...decent hands get 200-400. Good hands ~1k, exceptional hands 2.5-5k+ ...not bad for a 24$ start.

    I used a similar strategy before and it worked fine. But it does reach loss limits if you are badlucked under an hour. So I would advise you plan some darkside too...

    But when it’s hitting. It’s one hella powerful system. I sometimes like to regress when 3 numbers reach ~100. Locks 300$ profits and go after it again with a 44 inside.
    When rolls are trending 10ish I like to start with a regressing play.
     
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  2. DeMango, Mar 5, 2018

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    Well all I can suggest is to make plans with Dave, the only FRT that I know of in your neck of the woods.
     
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  3. Mssthis1, Mar 6, 2018

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    if you make that trip let me know. That area is right in my travel sweetspot.
     
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  4. random_roller, Mar 6, 2018

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    What about stopping off in Chicagoland next year?
     
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  5. Edward-ky, Mar 6, 2018

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    I went and played at cape last friday and sunday. I think you said you were going to go to cape. Table isnt bad dealers and box all very nice and friendly. Was on the ats when it hit on friday night. Won all 3 sessions i played there. Buying the 3 and 11 and 10 really paid off. Have to say the more i have played crapless the more i like it. They dont have hop bets there. And not a lot of people hedging onthe comeout roll either which made a nice pace to the game.
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Mar 6, 2018

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    Thanks for the info. I'll be there Apr 4-8th. Wife is going to a get together at the factory that makes sock making machines and I plan on splitting my time between the Cape and Tunica.
     
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  7. HornHiYo, Mar 6, 2018

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    Hey Freddyy,
    Your press schedule is similar to one I follow. I like it. Long rolls can get ya to table max pretty fast.
     
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  8. twodicebilly, Mar 6, 2018

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    Freddy

    These press systems are fine on a good roll..
    I just got back from playing 20 days in a row and
    never saw a hand in the thirties and no hand with more
    than 6....6 or 8's.

    I would have lost my home, my hunting land as well as
    a boat of two.

    tdb
     
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  9. HornHiYo, Mar 6, 2018

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    Yo TDB... no wonder mama has you in the basement stripping copper from transformers! Yo... ya might wanna check out something they call stop loss. :confused: just saying...
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Mar 6, 2018

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    On the 4&10 I can get you to a $100 on 2 hits with a $15 bet.First hit go to $40. Second you are at a $100 plus $16 or so.
    With your recent betting plan when do you decide on what outside number to take .Do you wait first on taking that $35 payout from the pressed 6 or 8?
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Mar 6, 2018

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    Well you know stripping wire out of old tv sets is not all that
    bad, takes a little time to get the hang of it.

    But back to reality.... when you talk about hands with 6-8 of any number within that one roll does not happen a lot... you see many more hands of
    5-15 shots....making money on those rolls is an important skill as well.

    tdb
     
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  12. Edward-ky, Mar 6, 2018

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    If you listen to your buddy hall those happen all the time with the mesa group. Those type of rolls are few and far between but halls group of players pull that off everytime they go to a casino. For me i cant just blindly accept those type of claims unless i saw it first hand. And i would bet there wont ever be a soul from this forum that is gonna witness hall at a casino at the dice table.
     
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  13. Freddyy, Mar 6, 2018

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    You don’t need to get to 11 rolls to profit. The profit is built in the presses/collect.

    When I make the bet 12-30-30-66-90-150-150, having the same number follow means same bet & collect. I don’t usually get past 150 before I pull the plug, but it’s nice to have the plan for out of the norm hand.

    For when it’s not working...nothing’s going to work ne way. So press and regress.

    Hell you can upgrade or down grade the bets down to 2$ starting bets on bubble or push it for 25$ table. But overall you need a bankroll to hold it and play in your loss limits. It’s not perfect, but it can work...I already proved it before. But the dice need to roll your way for sure.

    Tho 1 good hand and you’re rockin’
     
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  14. Freddyy, Mar 6, 2018

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    I like take take 1 outside number that has been made in the hand and work from it’s repeaters for the spreading. And leave the 6-8 working by themselves.

    Say the point is 5 and it had a tendency to show. I’ll place 5-6-8. But don’t want to over commit on the early rolls... eventually I sometimes cover them all and progress them but if I decide it’s spreading too much and not repeating enough.

    Say on a good hand I reach [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected] I will regress to 40 outside and 18$ 6&8. Cuz it’s the best starting presses, and power press it again without my first collect, that sweeps 300$ish back into my rack.

    My plan changes a lot depending on what shows. Sometimes when roll get short I just switch to a single DP bet and wait it out.

    When rolls tend to give 3-5 hits & out I have a steep regression system too. But that hits the loss limit way faster on a bad luck.

    You can’t go out there thinking 1 system is the key to the vault...and even with it... someday the key will jam ;)
     
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  15. Dave G Ct, Mar 7, 2018

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    Thx Freddy
     
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  16. twodicebilly, Mar 7, 2018

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    I agree 100% that there are ways of betting that
    work better than others....no question... i also admit i have
    spent 90% of my time of working on shots and dice sets
    etc.....i need to do a better job of matching betting systems to
    the way i play.

    tdb
     
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  17. Mssthis1, Mar 7, 2018

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    After decades of trying every betting scheme in the book I've settled on either flat betting until I recoup whats on the table, then press aggressively or two hits regress, then press. A 3/1, 2 hits, regress and press is the only thing I use on bubbles now since you can get much more creative on your betting amounts on the bubble without chumping yourself on payoff.

    Everyone needs to do what gives them the best balance of enjoyment and money management at the table. If you aren't enjoying your time at the table why play?
     
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  18. TDVegas, Mar 7, 2018

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    Yes....agree fully.
    What was your strategy again? Can't remember if you used place or come bets utilizing a press?
     
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  19. Freddyy, Mar 7, 2018

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    I do use flat bet recoup too. But on my regression system.
     
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  20. DeMango, Mar 7, 2018

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    I think more time is wasted discussing presses on every dice board you come to. But MSS had it right, get your money back and then press.

    Most people will never see the top end of presses that folks like to throw out. I had a situation happen last week that left me without a clue on what to do but an old dealer friend helped out. We had an old di, 6 days older than dirt, lighting up the 9 from SO. Here is the advice given plus results. 30$ 9. Drop 6 make it $80. Drop 4 make it $200. Bets following went to $300 then $450 then $600. Seven out. Next turn he had, I may have started at $50. 80-200-300-450-600-800-1000-1200 seven out. Once in a lifetime . Wish I could shoot like that!
     
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