Game Plan??

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Badcompany12, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. TDVegas, Mar 5, 2018

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    From GTC....

    And while I have no issue with running simulations because they can be very educational and enlightening as to what is possible and probable...

    I'm going to draw the line when they add in made up shit into the sim. to bolster their argument.

    Catlin ran NO figures because no one is running around with a long term 8 SRR. All he did was punch in that Sharpshooter and Dominator actually have 8 SRR's. Without doubt, without hesitation....these two do NOT possess 8 SRR's nor does their crew over their gambling careers. So, there is no 8 figure to run. Then they base a thesis off these ficticious numbers.

    Might as well run a simulation that says what would happen if a ML hitter was batting .892 for the season.

    Nope..ain't passing the smell test on ANY level.

    But I do understand the game plan. Sell, sell, sell.

    You want to run a realistic, valid sim? Here are 43 trials for 40,000 rolls each.

    The best was 6.19 SRR
    The worst was 5.82 SRR

    8 SRR....what are they smoking? Besides wacky weed from Mesa....
     
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  2. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    To come to these conclusions as strongly as , "TDEIOUS" has he would have to know everything
    no one should ever assume that , "TDEVIOUS" knows anymore than anybody else , and realize he knows less than most
    He assumes because he is not capable at something , no one can do it .

    He constantly talks about what people can't do , guessing with no facts
    He is very jealously protecting / guarding his brand
     
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  3. TDVegas, Mar 5, 2018

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    I have many, many simulations....These are conclusions backed by simulations.
    Not just my story. Not just my opinion....but I concede they can be accepted or noted or even dismissed. I fully understand and accept that and won't argue that point.

    what do you have besides a story? I see nothing.

    You keep suggesting others have no "facts"...yet in the same breath you say you have facts. Those things you call facts are nothing but a story you tell. In other words, no facts...just a story.

    Your relevance (irrelevance) here does not supersede anyone. Nor do your "facts"....which in reality are nothing more than a story.

    You still don't understand that concept. Can't help ya there.
    My "brand" is honesty & reality...something which you have little understanding.
     
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  4. DeMango, Mar 5, 2018

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    I would be more interested in the stuff being thrown on the wall by Freddy and Chip Magnet. Claiming a progression, with large 10K buy in produces profit. Add some di and?
     
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  5. TDVegas, Mar 5, 2018

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    Yes...would like to see more simulations run with this play to see how it holds up. Not just 1 or 2 sims.
     
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  6. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    honesty and reality??? what a farce


    Your simulations are worthless , based on the reality experienced by a random player and has exactly no bearing
    on the results of players with a skill in DICE influence / control
    You try very hard to lump random player results in with skilled DI results , very disingenuous , two entirely different things
    but you try
    your brand is pushing the idea that in the long run people are going to lose
    I cannot for the life of me understand why you or anybody else would play knowing that
    It is counter productive and even more so , counter intuitive , makes no sense to me why anyone would just keep
    playing a game they expect to lose and feel so strongly that there is just no way to win
    THAT dude is your brand
    To you Craps is a , "NEGATIVE EXPECTATION / NEGATIVE OUTCOME GAME
    and you push that OPINION every minute of every day
    THAT IS THE , "TDVegas brand , "HOPELESSNESS" and you peddle it here everyday and you have some believing
     
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  7. HornHiYo, Mar 5, 2018

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    And staying home, posting bullshit stories and submitting pictures of chips you didn’t win is somehow a more productive, accurate, winning way?
     
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    not worth addressing hall and his comments, he is and always will be the village idiot.

    but addressing all the di schools and di instructors, why not just use some of their talent to shut up all the non believers.

    choose 10 non believers from various boards that are known to many, both online and in PERSON, so we know we would get accurate reports, plan some casino runs and invite the non believers to record what they see.

    I know if I was in vegas or Biloxi, or tunica, or AC or Cleveland, and the self claimed superstars of di offered me a chance to witness them in action, Id be ok with reporting here or any other website the truth.
    what I expect is the typical answer, oh, youre too negative, yeah, because I don't want to win money? its always the same bullshit.
    take me to any table in any casino and Ill watch or play, Ill cover any position on any table you want, Ill protect your landing zone, Ill keep others from fucking up the zones you want, Ill hold a spot for you, Ill spread out and screw anyone trying to squeeze in.....Ill assist the di in any way or form so he can roll up what he claims he can.
     
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  9. HornHiYo, Mar 5, 2018

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    Ya hit the nail on the head with village idiot!
    I gotta agree that would be fun just to hear the bullshit excuses as to why it ain’t working. The thing is not so fun seeing one shot that does not workout and then traipsing off to a different table one after the other until someone can get past PSO! Can’t ya see it? Oops can’t do it here! Let’s go! Oops can’t do it here! Let’s go! Shit You’d be at it forever at one roll per table and then they would claim winner because they lost only $42 bucks per table.

    Besides, I think that’s been offered more than once and it’s the same old same old response; no can do, no can do.

    They talk the talk but can’t walk the walk.
     
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  10. DeMango, Mar 5, 2018

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    Okay Liman, when ya coming to Biloxi? We like to shoot very early in the morning, keep out as much riff raff as possible. My next appearance is at the end of this month. TD is certainly welcome!
     
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  11. TDVegas, Mar 5, 2018

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    I guess when you make up a story, a fabrication, a lie...you consider it "honest and reality"?

    Somehow...."prank" (or whatever you want to call it) excuses dishonesty?....but only when caught, right?
    Nonsense. I won on Friday. I have many, many winning sessions. You know nothing.
    To me?...to me?...craps is a negative expectation to everyone who isn't a degenerate gambler. Some might win long term. That doesn't change the fact the game is a negative expectation game.
     
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  12. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    First part of your post is pig plop ,
    You won on Friday ?? more pig plop , you didn't win , you didn't compete , you took a couple of guesses and the machine paid a couple of dollars
    Winning is when you prevail , you compete and come out on top
    You simply received a GIFT from the machine

    Craps is a negative expectation game to some but to skilled players
    There is no difference between negative expectation and expecting to win
    You , well not you , you don't play craps , you play $1 bubble
    but to most craps players expect to lose , thus a negative expectation game ,when the random player
    comes out ahead he is pleasantly surprised

    When a skilled DI wins , no surprise , he is only surprised when he comes out behind
    You go in expecting to lose , "NEGATIVE EXPECTATION" , A self fulfilling prophecy

    I never allow myself to think in those terms , I expect to win and
    I actually do win many many times
     
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  13. HornHiYo, Mar 5, 2018

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    I would have enjoyed taking advantage of him on the grade school play ground flipping quarters.
    Look AssHall. We flip. You flip quarters I flip dimes. If you call it right you get my dime, if you call it wrong I get your quarter. Now don’t believe anyone that tells you this is a negative expectation game because your chance of being right is 50/50 on every flip and you can go on a winning streak and win all my money.
     
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  14. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    Just like , "TDEVIOUS" looking for free lessons , the board went thru weeks of that bull squash sometime back , guys wanting to learn on a free ride
    nice try tho
    don't want to address Hall and his comments
    are you going to be the second to slink away in silence , going to hide with Demango are ya , take your buddy , "TDEVIOUS" with ya
    and we'll make it a , "TRIPLE" , oh and take the gnat too what's his horn oh yeah , "HORN IN HIS HOOTER" take em all
     
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  15. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    You're flipping dimes?? So it should take me 3 or 4 hours to bankrupt you
    Here is a game for you , you call heads or tails , I will flip a quarter , every time you guess right you win , guess wrong I win
    I can also control the outcome of a coin toss . Wanna play???
    In school Parker , Glenn and I used to make a lot of money matching quarters for lunch money
    till the principal hauled us into the office and made us stop
     
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  16. Freddyy, Mar 5, 2018

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    I’m still making tests & calculations on it.

    Trying more aggressive, less aggressive. With come bet / delayed place bet.
    Mixed with regression / only same system.

    It doesn’t do good against cold tables. But it doesn’t ruin you either. Gives time to set a stop loss.

    For the return on investment it’s good on a hot roll, decent on a decent roll.

    So far I’m up from 10k to 32k on a random roll app. So add DI it could be decent.

    So far worst streak I saw was -600$ best was +1500. Still testing it out.
     
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  17. TDVegas, Mar 5, 2018

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    Sounds like the attitude of a sore loser. "When I win, it's all on me"....and "when I lose, it was "gifted" to you"....

    Consummate sore loser mentality. Not surprised. Let me guess...you also bang away on the chip rail when the 7 shows?
     
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  18. James Hall, Mar 5, 2018

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    Nope , no chip rail banging for me , I am very well aware , after 30 or more rolls the 7 has to come sooner or later

    The 7 doesn't come often enough that it is much of a problem

    All that being said I must admit I have never been very good at losing , I hate to lose so
    that is why I have always had at least one casino craps table in my house
    I know that , If I do the work , If I invest the time , effort and energy I can and will win In craps , people who consistently win , win because they deserve to win
    They spend the time to learn , they spend the time practicing , they deserve to win
    winning for these people is not a gift they have earned the win
     
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    oh man, I hope you let me take you up on that next year when I travel thru Memphis, Kansas city , tunica, and Id go down to Biloxi to watch a di perform some magic.

    its difficult this year, as I have too many financial obligations and my wife has used most of her vacation time.
    (once she retires end of summer next year, we are free, and as long as Im healthy enough, we are hitting the road, Ive been mapping out the miles and figuring out if my leased car could handle the mileage.)

    if you offer, Ill come visit you. practice, Im looking forward to it.

    Im going to check out the marriot hotel in islandia that they turned into a slot casino here on long island, as they advertise, long islands onlyl casino.
    I know they have interblock machines, and they advertise electronic craps, so Im hoping for an interblok bubble.

    after that, no plans for casinos for months.
     
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