Gambling Statistics Sept. Update ~ Beat Goes On

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  1. Mssthis1, Oct 7, 2018

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    That is to be expected from someone who claims to be an expert at playing streaks, trends or whatever you want to call them yet doesn't realize after decades of play that the pass line is where the greatest number of streaks/trends occur.

    At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up.
     
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    That is to be expected from someone who claims to be an expert at playing streaks, trends or whatever you want to call them yet doesn't realize after decades of play that the pass line is where the greatest number of streaks/trends occur.

    At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up.
     
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  3. James Hall, Oct 7, 2018

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    I can't help but believe that you really didn't give that
    statement much thought before you posted it.
    If the trend / streak on the pass line is the number 9
    The number 9 is also a streak / trend for place bets

    The vast difference is in the fact that while I am a trend
    better on place number and collecting on every hit
    and full pressing

    you will collect on every other hit
    First hit establishes the point second hit you get paid
    Although the number may hit the same number of times
    on the pass line you will collect every other hit

    You might be surprised at what might be expected from someone who has
    played trends for decades more than 5 actually.
    I have paid attention and over those years I have learned a lot
    especially on how to WIN.
     
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  4. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 7, 2018

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    You're coming out on a $5 table and therefore forced to make a $5 Pass Line bet. Given that you often cite that a number needs to roll only once for a place bet to win as support for that bet's superiority you also place $34 $32 across, working. You roll 6 and get paid $7. Why not take down the Place 6 and take $10 or $15 odds on your Line bet? You'll get paid 6:5 instead of 7:6 and you can adjust or remove the bet at need.
     
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  5. Mssthis1, Oct 8, 2018

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    The streak isn't any particular number. The streak is pass line winners no matter what the point is.

    let's go back to the day your friend rolled 2, five point fire bets. The way I play a 3/4/5 odds game I'm getting paid at least $800 on that 5th point on the pass line alone, more if there were box numbers that repeated or comeout naturals. That is a streak. It happens more often than any particular box number streaking.

    Whatever point is set on the pass line you're only getting paid on every other one unless you're working on the come out. Do you work everything on comeout rolls?

    The day your friend tossed all those firebets his toss was obviously random. You have repeatedly stated you don't want to repeat the set point. When your toss is a lemon, make lemonade and figure out a way to win.

    On the rare occasion that I intend to bet more on a box number than max odds will allow I take max odds and the remainder as a place, put or buy bet, depending on where I'm playing. They allow that in case you didn't know.
     
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  6. eagleeye2, Oct 8, 2018

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    [QUOTE="Mssthis1, post: 233911,....

    At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up.[/QUOTE]


    Mssthis1,

    I Must have missed something, please explain your comment, i.e. ""At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up"".

    eagleeye2
     
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  7. eagleeye2, Oct 8, 2018

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    [QUOTE="Mssthis1, post: 233911,....

    At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up.[/QUOTE]


    Mssthis1,

    I Must have missed something, please explain your comment, i.e. ""At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up"".

    eagleeye2
     
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  8. eagleeye2, Oct 8, 2018

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    [QUOTE="Mssthis1, post: 233911,....

    At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up.[/QUOTE]


    Mssthis1,

    I Must have missed something, please explain your comment, i.e. ""At least Eagle now knows one of the reasons why the casinos hold keeps going up"".

    eagleeye2
     
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  9. Mssthis1, Oct 8, 2018

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    Some gurus are making place bets on the pass line point instead of placing odds behind their pass line point.
     
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  10. eagleeye2, Oct 10, 2018

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    Yep, they are.

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  11. James Hall, Oct 12, 2018

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    I would actually rather have the $10 or $15 on place bets where I can move and adjust
    I am not concerned with the pass line because I am not particularly trying to make it
     
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  12. James Hall, Oct 12, 2018

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    That is generally true for random players , I DON'T BET ON THEM.
    I rack $2500 and the dealers get a $1250 tip.
    Another streak might be five nines that pays me $828.
    Yes.
    No . when we bet the fire bet he sets to make points not roll numbers.
    Let me put that this way . Making the point is not my priority ,
    I am not trying to make the point , I am trying to roll numbers.
    The way I play there is more money rolling numbers than making points.
     
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  13. James Hall, Oct 12, 2018

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    That is generally true for random players , I DON'T BET ON THEM.
    I rack $2500 and the dealers get a $1250 tip.
    Another streak might be five nines that pays me $828.
    Yes.
    No . when we bet the fire bet he sets to make points not roll numbers.
    Let me put that this way . Making the point is not my priority ,
    I am not trying to make the point , I am trying to roll numbers.
    The way I play there is more money rolling numbers than making points.
     
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  14. von duck, Oct 12, 2018

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    Wow, a $1250 tip when you rack $2500. You must be the most generous person alive Sir. I'll bet even TD would deal that game for you, but he can't, he's a professional "football handicapper" now. :)
     
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  15. James Hall, Oct 12, 2018

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    A $5 bet for the dealers
    A $5 on the triple hard way gives the dealers $5,000
    Parker told me the other day a couple of the casinos
    we play for some reason have limited the
    amount they will allow them to place for the dealers
    Parker has a tendency to go overboard playing for the dealers
    if we are playing and he doesn't have a plane payment due .
    He's a "LITTLE DICKENS" Well he's not little ,
     
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  16. von duck, Oct 12, 2018

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    I think as a rule, most casinos limit the dealers action to " sixteen pieces of silver". Wouldn't want to exceed that threshold, could be counterproductive for the house. I've seen the "box man", putting dealers money, back into the bankroll, I swear this. :cool: "A LITTLE DICKENS"? That's pretty close, to what TD is, SIR. :D
     
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  17. James Hall, Oct 13, 2018

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    TDVegas just likes to start arguments and the
    strange phenomenon is he always starts a fight he can't win
    he always chooses the WRONG SIDE OF THE FIGHT.
    Sometime back he started an argument with me
    saying , "TRENDS DON'T EXIST"
    He always takes the wrong side of the argument.
     
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  18. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 13, 2018

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    The rule at my local haunt is that when a player makes a bet for the crew in addition to one of his/her own, the total may exceed the table limit by 10%. However, the one time I heard this rule cited the dealer polled the other players to find one of them willing to claim having made the portion of the dealer bet that exceeded the official maximum.
     
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  19. James Hall, Oct 13, 2018

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    Some may even do both, Have money on the pass line
    and a place bet on the same number , I know a guy that does that a lot and why
     
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  20. von duck, Oct 13, 2018

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    Only 110% of table limit? :confused: Boy, I'll bet that really cost the dealers a lot money. :) I've never had one of the dealers "pole" me, but I have had them smack me with the stick, a couple of times. :D I'm a very "intense"
    player. :cool:
     
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