Full Press Trespassed for life from Holywood KC

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  1. Edward-ky, Oct 26, 2017

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    See proving the fact that your idiot again. You prove this fact on every thread on this forum.
     
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  2. James Hall, Oct 27, 2017

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    You still haven't learned Eddy . You still don't know how to win arguments . If you are arguing about craps .
    Sick to the topic of craps , you have to get off on these tangents and start attacking your opponent with disparaging personality
    attacks . When you do that you have for all intense and purposes surrendered your argument and given up the controversy
    Now back up a step or two and tell me why you think my stance on the point at hand has no merit
    then we can proceed from there
    The statement , "PROVING YOU'RE AN IDIOT CONTRIBUTES NOTHING TO YOUR ASSERTION THAT MY STANCE ON THE
    SUBJECT IS IN THE LEAST INCORRECT"
    Would you like to try again and perhaps forward a more appropriate argument?
    I will await your immediate response
     
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  3. The Midnight Skulker, Nov 23, 2017

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    Being as Full Press seems to have been trespassed from this thread as well as from Holywood [sic] KC I feel no guilt about -- reluctantly, for I fear I may be trying to cross a cafeteria during a food fight without being "served" -- taking off on a different tangent.

    While I'm at it I will also pre-apoloze for the thread resurrection.
    While Class II VP machines create the illusion of playing poker with a standard deck of 52 cards, the results of a round are determined by other means, and the software uses a poker format only as a way to display those results. In effect the virtual cards are being picked by hand to form a hand that matches the player's predetermined outcome, resorting to some external event (e.g. the appearance of a magic fairy) when the player's "strategy" makes it impossible to construct the necessary hand with the cards available. Hence I have to assume this applies only to Class III machines.
    I need to take off on yet another tangent for this one.

    Shortly after the Iowa(?) meat packers won what was then the largest Powerball jackpot ever I started writing an article for Casino City Times to make the point that a player would never have a positive expectation. (Fortunately, I never finished and submitted that article for publication, for not that long ago I am all but sure that players had a positive expectation when the jackpot reached $1.3B.) The biggest fly in the ointment is the possibility of multiple winners (i.e. a split jackpot). Most calculators of expected value for a lottery assume a single winner, and using that assumption I came up around $550M as the size of the jackpot necessary to make the lottery player positive with the pay table in effect at the time. IIRC I threw in another $100M to account for a split jackpot, but I was not happy with using such a SWAG so I mothballed the exercise. (I have since thought of a way to account for a split jackpot using an infinite series and, based on historical information I got from my state lottery commission, a 25% chance of there being duplicate winning tickets, but I have yet to get a round tuit and crunch the numbers.)

    Another fly in the ointment is that the published pre-draw jackpot amount is not what the winner(s) will receive should he/she/they choose to take the money as a single payment and run. Rather it is the total of the 30 annual payments the winner will get without accounting for the time value of money. I confess I have not corrected for this deficiency in my analysis.

    I do not wish to detract from your main point by picking this nit. The size of the jackpot in no way affects probability of winning; it affects only the expected value of a ticket, which is the average profit/loss per play over a large number of plays made when the jackpot is at the specified value.
    I read that the first time the Multi-State Lottery Association (MUSL) changed how many numbers were in play it was because some group of players (from Australia I think) had attempted to, and had almost succeeded in, purchasing a ticket for every possible combination. If memory serves it is now physically impossible to accomplish this; the system simply cannot print the tickets fast enough.
    Are not VP players allowed to consult strategy cards while playing? Would they get a tap on the shoulder for doing so? I have heard casino gift shops sell blackjack strategy cards. Seems like that would be the way to go for even the casual player.
     
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  4. superrick, Nov 23, 2017

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    The first thing I did when moving to Vegas was to buy a video poker slot to show my wife that even playing Perfect Strategy you really don't stand a chance unless you are some kind of math genius.

    You are not playing real poker when playing the video machines!

    Now see where all of you can take this post!
     
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  5. Onautopilot, Nov 23, 2017

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    You are absolutely right....VP is nothing like real poker.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Nov 25, 2017

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    As would I...and will use a stronger term than "assume" as it relates to II & III
     
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  7. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    you are desperately trying to participate but lacking anything of value to say you revert to this
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Nov 25, 2017

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    James quit wasting your time with no talents like Edward. Yes a waste.
     
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  9. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    Yeah I know but he's like a miniature pug dog , always snapping at your heels
    You knock his dick in the dirt and he just keeps coming back for more
    I'll bet he has one hell of a pain tolerance too
    besides that I finally got DeMango , "broke of messing with me, he put me on ignore "POOF"
    Now I'll se what I can do about Edward
     
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  10. dicepunk, Nov 25, 2017

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    WTF. Full Press is now Bone Thrower? Why the re-branding?

     
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  11. DeMango, Nov 25, 2017

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    Dave: How do you know Ed has no talent?
    How do you know AssHall has talent?
     
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  12. Dave G Ct, Nov 25, 2017

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    As to James SR said he was legitimate. With regards to Edward his posts reflect no talent. May be wrong but do Not think so
     
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  13. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    hey mr. "POOF" It's all obvious from reading posts
    You read posts don't you ? or are you still pouting?
     
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  14. DeMango, Nov 25, 2017

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    Dave: Did SR actually shoot with AssHall? How does a poster reflect talent?? It's all words unless a trusted source vouches for the poster. Just trying to keep you out of trouble buddy!
     
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  15. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    yeah Dave , DeMango is worried about you buddy
    he insults and ridicules you but he's worried , yeah right
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Nov 25, 2017

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    SR saw him shoot. Liked his toss and I guess he met a couple of his players.
    As for Edward never had the impression he was net positive.
     
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  17. Dave G Ct, Nov 25, 2017

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    . DeMango means well and works hard to improve his game.Not a naysayer
     
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  18. lone irish digit, Nov 25, 2017

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    For those who can read this post (not DuhMango)

    Supperick tossed the dice with him...He's taught craps in an organized setting...Got a lot of nice recommendations from students on his wall...Has a nice youtube craps tossing video...lives closer to casinos than some who are quick to criticize...Snakeeyes, Sydney, and Barney vouch for him...he's a bonifide craps, video game, and rodeo legend at 79 years... and he wins a lot and limits his losses to less than $50 a session...how many more of these do you need to qualify as craps expert?
     
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  19. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    kind words from one of the poets of craps
    Very much appreciated
     
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  20. James Hall, Nov 25, 2017

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    Probably but he's mean to me
     
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