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Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by lone irish digit, Oct 14, 2017.
See proving the fact that your idiot again. You prove this fact on every thread on this forum.
You still haven't learned Eddy . You still don't know how to win arguments . If you are arguing about craps .
Sick to the topic of craps , you have to get off on these tangents and start attacking your opponent with disparaging personality
attacks . When you do that you have for all intense and purposes surrendered your argument and given up the controversy
Now back up a step or two and tell me why you think my stance on the point at hand has no merit
then we can proceed from there
The statement , "PROVING YOU'RE AN IDIOT CONTRIBUTES NOTHING TO YOUR ASSERTION THAT MY STANCE ON THE
SUBJECT IS IN THE LEAST INCORRECT"
Would you like to try again and perhaps forward a more appropriate argument?
I will await your immediate response
Being as Full Press seems to have been trespassed from this thread as well as from Holywood [sic] KC I feel no guilt about -- reluctantly, for I fear I may be trying to cross a cafeteria during a food fight without being "served" -- taking off on a different tangent.
While I'm at it I will also pre-apoloze for the thread resurrection.
While Class II VP machines create the illusion of playing poker with a standard deck of 52 cards, the results of a round are determined by other means, and the software uses a poker format only as a way to display those results. In effect the virtual cards are being picked by hand to form a hand that matches the player's predetermined outcome, resorting to some external event (e.g. the appearance of a magic fairy) when the player's "strategy" makes it impossible to construct the necessary hand with the cards available. Hence I have to assume this applies only to Class III machines.
I need to take off on yet another tangent for this one.
Shortly after the Iowa(?) meat packers won what was then the largest Powerball jackpot ever I started writing an article for Casino City Times to make the point that a player would never have a positive expectation. (Fortunately, I never finished and submitted that article for publication, for not that long ago I am all but sure that players had a positive expectation when the jackpot reached $1.3B.) The biggest fly in the ointment is the possibility of multiple winners (i.e. a split jackpot). Most calculators of expected value for a lottery assume a single winner, and using that assumption I came up around $550M as the size of the jackpot necessary to make the lottery player positive with the pay table in effect at the time. IIRC I threw in another $100M to account for a split jackpot, but I was not happy with using such a SWAG so I mothballed the exercise. (I have since thought of a way to account for a split jackpot using an infinite series and, based on historical information I got from my state lottery commission, a 25% chance of there being duplicate winning tickets, but I have yet to get a round tuit and crunch the numbers.)
Another fly in the ointment is that the published pre-draw jackpot amount is not what the winner(s) will receive should he/she/they choose to take the money as a single payment and run. Rather it is the total of the 30 annual payments the winner will get without accounting for the time value of money. I confess I have not corrected for this deficiency in my analysis.
I do not wish to detract from your main point by picking this nit. The size of the jackpot in no way affects probability of winning; it affects only the expected value of a ticket, which is the average profit/loss per play over a large number of plays made when the jackpot is at the specified value.
I read that the first time the Multi-State Lottery Association (MUSL) changed how many numbers were in play it was because some group of players (from Australia I think) had attempted to, and had almost succeeded in, purchasing a ticket for every possible combination. If memory serves it is now physically impossible to accomplish this; the system simply cannot print the tickets fast enough.
Are not VP players allowed to consult strategy cards while playing? Would they get a tap on the shoulder for doing so? I have heard casino gift shops sell blackjack strategy cards. Seems like that would be the way to go for even the casual player.
The first thing I did when moving to Vegas was to buy a video poker slot to show my wife that even playing Perfect Strategy you really don't stand a chance unless you are some kind of math genius.
You are not playing real poker when playing the video machines!
Now see where all of you can take this post!
You are absolutely right....VP is nothing like real poker.
As would I...and will use a stronger term than "assume" as it relates to II & III
you are desperately trying to participate but lacking anything of value to say you revert to this
James quit wasting your time with no talents like Edward. Yes a waste.
Yeah I know but he's like a miniature pug dog , always snapping at your heels
You knock his dick in the dirt and he just keeps coming back for more
I'll bet he has one hell of a pain tolerance too
besides that I finally got DeMango , "broke of messing with me, he put me on ignore "POOF"
Now I'll se what I can do about Edward
WTF. Full Press is now Bone Thrower? Why the re-branding?
Dave: How do you know Ed has no talent?
How do you know AssHall has talent?
As to James SR said he was legitimate. With regards to Edward his posts reflect no talent. May be wrong but do Not think so
hey mr. "POOF" It's all obvious from reading posts
You read posts don't you ? or are you still pouting?
Dave: Did SR actually shoot with AssHall? How does a poster reflect talent?? It's all words unless a trusted source vouches for the poster. Just trying to keep you out of trouble buddy!
yeah Dave , DeMango is worried about you buddy
he insults and ridicules you but he's worried , yeah right
SR saw him shoot. Liked his toss and I guess he met a couple of his players.
As for Edward never had the impression he was net positive.
. DeMango means well and works hard to improve his game.Not a naysayer
For those who can read this post (not DuhMango)
Supperick tossed the dice with him...He's taught craps in an organized setting...Got a lot of nice recommendations from students on his wall...Has a nice youtube craps tossing video...lives closer to casinos than some who are quick to criticize...Snakeeyes, Sydney, and Barney vouch for him...he's a bonifide craps, video game, and rodeo legend at 79 years... and he wins a lot and limits his losses to less than $50 a session...how many more of these do you need to qualify as craps expert?
kind words from one of the poets of craps
Very much appreciated
Probably but he's mean to me