Finally stepped up to the table

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by BBinWI, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. lone irish digit, Nov 9, 2015

    lone irish digit

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2015
    Messages:
    1,699
    Likes Received:
    1,249
    Whenever I walk up to the craps table, I usually empty my wallet and hand the money over to the box and then leave.
     
    #21
    BBinWI and betwthelines like this.
  2. random_roller, Nov 10, 2015

    random_roller

    random_roller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    1,105

    So...on the come out, 28 ways (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12) to lose part of your total bet against 8 ways (7, 11) to win something, but when a 7 is immediately rolled, the result in a very nice profit even after the vig.

    How often do you bet this way when you are the shooter?

    On a $5 table, how much are you laying the 4 & 10 for? $11, $21, $41 or some other amount?

    Thanks.
     
    #22
  3. $nakeEye$, Nov 10, 2015

    $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    3,041
    Likes Received:
    456
    That's ONE way to look at -

    ONLY 1 way to LOSE 1 BET ( Lay Bet ) - discounting the PL wager is the " Price to do Business - Shooting the Dice "
    -

    You could win ALL 6 lay bets with a " 7 " - BUT - ONLY lose 1 to the established point number -

    The MIN amount wagered is $30 against EACH box number with a $1 vig for EACH $30 wager -

    The 4 and 10 pay $15 / the 5and 9 pay $20 / and the 6 and 8 pay $25 !

    THIS works on a $5, $10 OR $15 table -

    I bet THIS manner MOST ALL the time when I and my wife shoot -

    EXCEPT on layouts where a " 7 " kills ALL Feature Bets -

    Such as the ATS, Repeater and other bets - the Fire Bet is not prone to losing on a C/O winning " 7 " !

    $...eE..$

    P.S. - Your " EXPECTED WIN " on a bet MUST EQUAL or EXCEED the TABLE MIN -

    i.e. - On a $5 Min table you could effectively wager $10 - however the MIN that the box will accept is more like $20 - primarily due to the vig !
     
    #23
    random_roller likes this.
  4. random_roller, Nov 10, 2015

    random_roller

    random_roller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    1,565
    Likes Received:
    1,105

    Thanks. Once in a while I'll lay the 4 or 10 on a come out roll when someone else is shooting, but for the most part I'm a PL & place bettor.
     
    #24
  5. The Midnight Skulker, Nov 11, 2015

    The Midnight Skulker

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    997
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Idaho, USA
    I have a similar, though far less aggressive, strategy up my sleeve for use in very specific circumstances. I am normally a $10 bettor, but when the stars align (mathematically speaking of course, Basic Sevens) I'll go with $20 Pass, $10 Whirl, and lay $300 [sic] each no-5, no-9. When a point gets established the lays come down, I take PL odds to taste -- depends on whether I have had any comeout sevens or shot myself in the foot -- and obviously try to make the point. Sometimes I pocket some black; sometimes I have a limp for a while.
     
    #25
    basicstrategy777 and yacraps like this.

  6. Queta

    Queta Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2016
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    41
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    USA-Midwest
     
    #26
  7. far out, Dec 15, 2016

    far out

    far out Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2014
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    82
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    maine
    Your system of how you feel at the time strikes home with me. A page out of my book so to speak. I like your common sense thinking on most of your posts. Rock on OAP!
    far out
     
    #27
    Twelve4s, yacraps and Grizzoola like this.
  8. basicstrategy777, Dec 21, 2016

    basicstrategy777

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    5,805
    Likes Received:
    2,463
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    CT.
    Play lowish vig bets ( either side) that give you the most fun.....sprinkle in an center table bet on the chance you might catch lightning in a bottle. You need to balance fear of loss with the greed gene in your bettiing. You need to be smart and disciplined and lucky. Don't ever say..." that can't happen" .

    777
     
    #28
    HornHighBLEVE and Twelve4s like this.