Finally... building my table!!

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  1. Liman

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    smart using the bed rail hardware for the base.
    looking great, great craftsmanship.
    looks like your getting real close.
     
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  2. petroglyph, Aug 9, 2014

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    The oak looks great. Your call of course. Looking at it from here it seems the rail arm rest and drink holder will cover a lot of it up. Your plan is to make this break downable right? I don't see how you can take the walls down and have them fit without some kind of spline type fit. On covering the seems will edge tape help at all? It comes in that red color. The tape could just be sacrificial any time you move the table, it's not like you will be breaking it down every week. I've also seen rolls of red oak vinyl [I think it's flooring] that would come long enough to rap clear around the table but would be a shame not to show off what you have going here.
     
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  3. 7DOWN11, Aug 10, 2014

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    Liman - On the hardware it was a good choice, that middle support is very sturdy but comes apart like butter!

    petroglyph - Yeah I want to keep the Red Oak look! I will get something figured out and even if I drop some trim/decorative type something to hide the end board seams 'll do so! Not sure if I'm going to stain the red oak ply or simply just urethane over it... The rails will cover a lot I agree. I will probably join and glue the two center stick man's walls together as one piece I know I will be able to get rid of the board end seam that way and then only have 2 to deal with vs 3. That piece would be 102.25", still very manageable by one person to put together. I will use something that pulls the ends of boards tight together under force, something that is strong and removable. I did buy some under counter, counter top clamps. But not sure I like that they are 3/4" thick and I'd have to drill holes in the ply.
     
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  4. Liman

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    joint connectors from woodcraft.
     
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  5. 7DOWN11, Aug 10, 2014

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    I have those! I didn't want to drill 3/4" through the back side of each wall, but I did some test pieces and it turned out pretty nice! So I will go with it!!!!
     

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    7DOWN11:

    Do you have a projected completion date as of yet... ?

    Did you purchase all the peripherals yet (dice, chips, stick, buttons etc...)?

    Looking forward to hear your "grand opening" report... .

    Keep up the good work,

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  7. 7DOWN11, Aug 10, 2014

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    Build Day 10 Photo Set #1:

    Obie1 - No completion date as of yet. I'm the kind of person that like to really fully complete something prior to using it... don't get me wrong I'll set it up partially complete and throw some dice, but before I have others checking it out in person I will be as complete as possible. Yes - I have purchased "Everything" I'm going to need including $141,500 in chips for stacking in the box man's bank of chips! I have 12 dozens or so casino quality dice, red and purple so when practicing I'll be able to tell which dice reacts correct or incorrect! For the grand opening... I hope soon, but reality always comes knocking so it will be several weeks I'm sure.

    OK Today was a lot of thinking! I did work on the base legs and the side walls getting them connected. I did a test piece first to join to cut off ends together... It all turned out great! I am ended up using the PVC 3" pipe for my columns and I'm glad I did they turned our really good. I also wrapped the base legs in 1/4" Red Oak and will paint any exposed pine either black or something just to give it a good look. I did a lot of little detailed stuff today and that type work takes a lot longer than you first think! I'm to the point now that I can assemble the base/legs, table top, all walls and start on the rails/hand rests. I've purchased all foam etc and just need to get something to wrap it all up nice and neat! One thing that helps is I seem to make a template for anything I have to do more than once, and sometimes, if I do something only once. It makes for a better turn out of how things work and look I feel!
     

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  9. 7DOWN11, Aug 10, 2014

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  11. BigBen, Aug 11, 2014

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    Thank you for the kind words about my Practice Table, 7DOWN11!

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  12. 7DOWN11, Aug 11, 2014

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    Worked on the base legs and bottom layer of the table top today. I added squared red oak corner trim to cover the ¼” oak ply I wrapped the base legs in. I think this will look best out of all options I came up with. Was able to get the hardware added for leg levelers as well, but once I added them I realized the ones I bought are too small and when setting up the table it’s not sturdy enough for one person to do alone. So I’ll get bigger levelers later. Also added the hardware to fasten down the lower layer table top, and that came out really good! Not sure if I’ll added anything to fasten down the top layer table top. I might just sit in on the other and not fasten it since the lower is very secure!
     

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  13. 7DOWN11, Aug 11, 2014

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  14. 7DOWN11, Aug 13, 2014

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    So I covered the base post and base frame with the contact paper that looks like wood grain and I must say it look really awesome! That dark will look good against the rest of the light wood and the walnut rails when I get them started. I have the felt just lying there rough fitted, I will want to try and find out a measurement of where the lower line of the pass line box is way from the wall so I can match its location like a really table. I also stacked up the $141,500 value in chips to give it that really cool casino look! My next step is a few detail items, then fit the felt exactly, attach the rubber dice bumpers to the end walls, find some mirrors, and then start working on the chip rails and the arm rests, I will probably do the drink shelf before starting the chip rails and arm rests.
     

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  15. 7DOWN11, Aug 13, 2014

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  16. BigBen, Aug 14, 2014

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  17. 7DOWN11, Aug 16, 2014

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    So decided to take a stab at the mirrors today. I bought 2 cheap door mirrors from WalMart for $11.98 each and cut them to fit. I used a traditional glass cutter for the straight sections but for the angled corner where the stickman stands I used my Dermel Tool with a diamond cut disc. It worked great. I used clear tubing and cut it to fit around the edges of the cut mirror. I think it turned out great. I will work on the hand rails or the drink shelf tomorrow.
     

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  18. 7DOWN11, Aug 16, 2014

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  19. 7DOWN11, Aug 18, 2014

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    I sent an email to the guy I originally ordered my felt from when I had thought I ordered the Fire Bet layout but didn’t get it in shipping. The guy actually called me from Vegas today about my email. It turns out the item I order was what I received. So I must have ordered the wrong item. But I ordered my new felt today that has the Fire Bet option, Fire Bet markers, and some clear acrylic spaces. It should all be here Friday! I also asked the guy when I had him on the phone a few misc questions on how a table goes together, what is used for under the felt etc. The guy seemed to really know his stuff! He explained the old style tables and how they went together, what they used for under the felts compared to the new way felts are printed using sublimation printing etc. He told me I was really close with the idea of vinyl for under my felt, but not flooring. He said they most often used the same type of vinyl that they cover the arm rests in for under the felt. I was actually out shopping for the vinyl for my arm rests today when I got his call. So I ended up buying enough to cover the armrests plus enough to cut an exact foot print of the table surface for under my felt. I put it down, then put the felt back on and WOW was I surprised at how well it worked! It's smooth, no wrinkles, lays down nice and flat, the sound is perfect when the dice hit, and most importantly the bounce seems right on. I'm very happy with how it came out. He also recommended that when I take the table apart, that I roll the two up together, this way the vinyl will protect the felt! It's all coming together and I’ll post more photos once I make the next big progress!!!
     
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    7DOWN11 -

    Very interesting info regards the vinyl underlayment -

    NOW I know what to do with those yards of white vinyl I purchased many moons ago for the boat ! -

    Guess after all that boat cushion material will NOT go to waste !

    Thanks for sharing that wealth of knowledge !

    $...eE..$
     
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