Finally... building my table!!

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  1. 7DOWN11, Jul 23, 2014

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    So a year of so ago I got the bug to build my own 8' craps table. I went as far as bought a lot of the tools, material, and all the table goods I needed including the felt, the Diamond Pyramid rubber, rail rubber, ON/OFF pucks, 12 dozen dice, etc. Bought it all and then, nothing. I got busy with this and that and never got around to working on the table, until this weekend! This weekend I started the build. I used photos of tables from the internet as reference, looked at several plans for tables, and actually had another user on either this forum or another forum sent me a ton of photos with measurements of a table he bought, his table had the words "Biloxi Belle" on the felt. But regardless, I decided for my needs I wanted to design my own plans and decided to go for a 12 footer, not an 8. So using the photos and measurements the other member sent me, I used AutoCAD to design my own plans, material cut sheets etc.

    Here are the photos from this weekends progress!!! For the end walls, with the curves, I did a test piece with cuts to make sure the measurements I created, were actually going to allow the curved wall to fit correctly to the curves I made in the table base I cut. Everything is working out perfect so far! I will give me "details" of what materials I am using and how I'm putting it all together, but for now I just wanted to get my build thread started!

    I hope you enjoy the photos and following my progress!
     

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    Here are some more photos!
     

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  5. petroglyph, Jul 23, 2014

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    Nice job on your radius's. Last photo #1 on the sheet on the horse's is that a clamp on guide for your circular saw? If so, all I can say is nice. Do you have one for 8ft. plus guide as well, if so what kind?

    Do you have a plan to prevent warpage?

    Did you post questions on a different forum under a different avatar? Good luck
     
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    No it's not a clamp for a guide... I was test fitting a template that I cut to make sure it would properly fit the table top I cut with the radius's. I actually cut the kurf cuts on my 10" table saw and I build a tables saw sled that I can simply lay the side walls in and it allows me to make very precise cuts. "Do you have one for 8ft. plus guide as well, if so what kind?" Do you mean drawings? Actually I stared off with 8ft table drawings and I just added a center section bigger to make it 12ft. It actually worked great! Warpage... This is 3/4" thick stock of Oak Ply, it will be 2 layers. I will seal the wood, and it is going to be setup in tv/movie room where it's A/C & heated. I'm not sure I'll have an issue. For the chip rails and the rail trim I am using dark Walnut. I think it's going to look great! The felt is "deep Burgundy"
     
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    Keep the pix of the progress coming !

    Sounds like you have a winner in the works !

    $...eE..$
     
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    My question was about the possibility of a saw guide. I use guides for cutting sheet goods. I know a good table saw does a great job on narrower projects. I like guides and don't do much cutting anymore.

    I built a practice rig and enjoy it. My own personal observations appear to me to be. I concur with your length, when I used to shoot a 6 footer I think it ruined me for the real deal. I think going double thick there is a good idea for bounce characteristics. Have you considered leaving yourself an option for changing table surfaces like 9 ounce fabric versus 7 ounce or micro fiber or even felt? Just a thought. I had kinda wished I'd used a layer of mdf to couple with my 3/4 oak.

    good luck and good to see another woodworker out there.
     
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    petroglyph: I have a sled for my table saw for that will fit a full 4ft wide, 2ft wide and 1ft. The reason I made different sleds is due to the heaviness of the wood for the different size material. the 4ft that I can put a complete 4x8 sheet on is build for ridged and is more heavy duty, then the one I use for the 2ft. The table surface will not be adhered to the table top, this is so I can use different padding under the felt, I have both 1/8" and 1/4" ridged foam. I will try to match the bounce characteristics of my local casino and then I will use that for my set up.

    Day 2: OK, only had about an hour to work on the table this evening). This evening I laid out the left and right inside end pieces for the table. Also laid out the cut lines from the template that made yesterday evening that I fit to my radiuses. This I laid out the length, kurf cut lines etc. Once I get this one complete and formed to my radiuses, I will create a new template for the outside end piece. Then fit to the table and once it's perfect I will cut the outside end pieces! Also here is a photo of the awesome walnut I have that I will make the chip rails and other rail trim pieces out of. I have some oak that is 1 7/8" thick that I'll do something with! as for pieces cut, all table pieces are cut, I need to make the kurf cuts in the outside and inside end pieces, I need to then move on to the chip rails, rails, padding and drink shelf. I will need to also make the leg base for the table to sit on. Once that is done, I will sandy, seal the wood with a matt type finish get all assembled etc. Thanks for following my build thread. Hope you enjoy the photos!
     

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    A few more photos from Day 3:
     

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    7down, they make bendable plywood in 3/8, Ive used it myself, makes like easy, no kerfing.
     
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    Liman: Yeah I actually have about 5 sheets of it... One thing I want is this table to be totally solid, and with the extra weight of the sold Oak Ply I'm sure that's how it will feel when standing at it tossing dice! Also, I already had this material laying in my garage for over a year. So I wanted to get right to building and not start shopping again. I will use the 3/8 to cover leg and base frame stand. But for the table since as I hope it get's a lot of use, the thicker material I think will work best for my application.
     
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    Have you got your armrests figured out?
     
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    petroglyph: YES - and I came up with a great way to connect the rails/chip rails and the drink rail to make sure they stay solid and feel as if they are part of the table. I am going to try and get a section of hand rail and drink rail done this weekend and will send some photos later! Once I see that the entire table comes together very nicely, I am thinking I might make my drawings/plans and the construction notes available!
     
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  15. BigBen, Jul 25, 2014

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    Looking real good there!
    Tons of progress, in such a short time.
    Have you thought about eliminating the Box position, and installing 2 Stick positions, and Felt on one side and Micro-Fiber on the other side, like my table?

    Well Done!
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    7Down11.... I have a brand new Casino layout for an 8 foot table here. I can look to see if it has a logo on it, if you can use it. I will sell it to you for half of what I paid for in about 20 years ago, plus shipping.

    PM me if you are looking for one. I can then unroll it. If you can use it I can fold it or see if it will fit into a Priority triangular blue print carton.

    Nice work! I tried to get a pool table maker in Missouri to make me some "break down" 8 or 10 foot tables. It was the curved chip racks that were the stumbling block. Pool tables were easier to make. Get the height worked out. It will give the table the "feel" that you are looking for as well.
     
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    BB - I never thought of that.... Do you have pics of your table? I can PM you my email address if you don't already have it.

    7Out- I will PM me can you send pics of what you have? I will pm you my email address.
     
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    Hi 7DOWN11,
    I figured I'd throw that out there for you, while you can still make a change or two.

    Here are a couple pics.
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    BB - WOW I've actually seen these photos online and did not know it was actually different ends of the same table. How funny is that! Very very cool! So do you think the option of the different felt/pad works best for when you go to different casinos? Thanks for sharing! I'm not sure if I want to use: no ridged foam under felt, 1/8" ridged foam, or 1/4" ridged foam pad on my table? I think 1/4" is to thick, I pressed down hard on the tables at Hollywood with a $5 chip today and I really felt "NO" give. So I'm not sure?????
     
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    Thank you.

    Yes, there's no doubt that the different bounce characteristics really help with my "Live" Sessions.
    AND, ya can't beat having an actual Practice Table at home.
    Heck, I've practiced or tried different shots at all hours! LOL...

    I also think 1/4" is on the thick side, but it also depends on what the tables are like at your regular haunts.

    You could also break the Deck down into quarters, and have 4 different underlayments.
     
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