Expressing odds of numbers

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Grizzoola, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. TDVegas, Oct 12, 2015

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    Even if you wanted to watch one of these "performances", what's likely going to happen is you will witness 70+ rolls in 2 hours or more. At the end of the 70 rolls he will roll 1 less 4 & 10 than probabilities dictate or 1 more 4 & 10 than probabilities dictate.

    Then you will leave, scratching your head saying "I just wasted 2 hours of my day"
     
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  2. Onautopilot, Oct 12, 2015

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    Fair enough.
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Oct 12, 2015

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    Calm done TD. Taking a little break that' S all. Hey I do not lie making up trip reports. If I am not there- I do not report anything. Besides I am a casual player who have some unique talents that I will put in play. Sounding like Liam Nielson now lol.
     
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  4. Onautopilot, Oct 12, 2015

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    I don't think I ever indicated that I thought Dave was lying about being ahead of the game. I have indicated I did not believe it was because of some talent in controlling the dice outcomes though.

    It is much like someone that has gotten ahead playing the lottery, and claims they have some method of picking numbers, and that is the "cause" of their winnings....I just don't think so!
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Oct 12, 2015

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    I will not waste anybody' S time making up stuff. If I do not go to the casino you will hear nothing about live play. However I am free to discuss practice and comment on DI. I do not have to shoot to be net positive. I just like it. Also I hated to try to locate a table that looked warm. I do believe in charting
     
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  6. Onautopilot, Oct 12, 2015

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    How you play is probably as good as many ways people play. If you base that on charting tables, no problem, I just don't believe that gives you any useful information about what is going to happen next.

    I don't argue with anyone's strategy, just the claims they make about it giving them some advantage over the HA. Every bet is independent and carries its own value, nothing past, or nothing future, effects that value...it is the basis of the game of bank craps. It is a simple concept that many just can not, or are not willing to accept.

    We all play the game hoping luck will favor our betting decisions (DI excepted). How we try and find that luck is up to each individual. I am happy you are experiencing good luck, I just do not believe it a "cause" of some skill, be it DI, or bet manipulation based on past results.
     
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  7. betwthelines, Oct 12, 2015

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    re-reading my post i can easily see how you might have thought that i was "intimating" that...i can assure you that i was not...tdv also, if i am not mistaken, has never expressed disbelief that dave was doing as well as he has indicated, but only argued against DI having anything to do with it or, as you so clearly and reasonably have done, that it "gives (him) any useful information about what is going to happen next" or that "the claims (he) make(s) about it giv(es him) some advantage over the HA." (IOW in a slightly less "edgy", scathing even, way than tdv perhaps did and does...lol...)

    originally i called dave "lightweight" (borrowing it from early-on tdv posts lol!) in the context of an exchange with him where the epithet did in fact add some intelligence and semantic emphasis to my contentions...since then i have persisted with the appellation in contexts where it is nothing less than "name calling", adding zero value, really, to the particular discussion...i am sorry for that now and will try to do better (meaning i might still use it again if the discourse warrants it!!! lol)...

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
    -g. geist: you're doing a lot of lol
    --tom p: i'm easily entertained
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Oct 12, 2015

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    I do not have any problems with any of the DI nesayers. I do have a problem with a few DI 'S however lol
     
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  9. DeMango, Oct 12, 2015

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    What'S up with the capital S?
    You should have problems with anyone who notices you ain't wearing any clothes!
     
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  10. TDVegas, Oct 12, 2015

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    Yes, I do have a tendency to get to the point in a direct, at times scathing manner.
    So I go to upgrade my iPhone. Walk in and ask for upgrade availability. Guy punches the keyboard 652 times and finally says "sure are". Then goes on to explain some convoluted monthly installment plan of $22.50/month for however money months with plan name of "give us extra money" ;-).

    After 20 seconds of hearing the sales pitch....I cut him off.

    "How much is the phone"?----cash, right now"? "And let's stop with the extra monthly charges" routine sales pitch. We've become a nation of "it's only $$ extra a month"....and its buried in some gimmicky plan name. My Vegas BS meter goes off again.

    Dave may very well be up money. He doesn't play too often and the game allows for that. Is it because of influence. 99% I say no.
     
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  11. Dave G Ct, Oct 12, 2015

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    Probably a combination of both and conservative betting.
     
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