Due Theory

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by badddoin, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. von duck, Apr 1, 2018

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    Even if you're TDs brother, you could not possibly be this stupid. :confused: If you have a $400 place 4, and a $400 lay 4, what would be the result of a 7 being rolled. Not to mention, the place bets on the other numbers. If a small computer can be programmed to beat all but the grand masters, at chess, I'll guarantee you, it can also be programmed to beat any craps bets. And, don't forget the 12. :)
     
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    Cheating or fixed, in the case of the bubble, is defined as any mechanism that alters the drop of the dice, or manipulates, the dice, to achieve, or avoid a certain outcome. Something is "working" on the dice, for some outcomes, and it's pretty obvious. I'm not the only one that sees it, google it, and read what other say, they see it too. I got the very convenient, " server error", when I attempted to reply to TDs last post. :confused: :cool: Not the first time either.
     
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  3. Mssthis1, Apr 2, 2018

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    Just last week I had a guy telling me he had proof that the machine was rigged to take any DP bet of $5 or more because his $5 DP that went to the 9 had lost 3 times. All of this was going on while I was collecting the payout from my $400 9 that had just hit. LOL.
     
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    They must of made a programming error on the local machine I play. For full year 2018 the house hold percentage was 23.28% on the live craps games and 12.47% on the bubble. Much of the difference is no vig upfront on the bubble and the live game has more sucker bets as in Sharpshooter and hop bets. The live games here are vig upfront. You can buy the 4,5,9,10 for any amount on the bubble. You can see what churn does to your bankroll on what seems to be insignificant differences on the surface on payouts for bets.
     
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    Just checking to see if I get "server error".
     
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    I did get "server error" but if you remove the emoticons in the text, all is well.
    The duck thinks the forum is fixed just like the bubble:
    'I got the very convenient, " server error"'.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Apr 2, 2018

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    The little green men took a break from "working on" the forum to go back to "working on" bubble craps. All should be well here...for a while:);)
     
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  8. von duck, Apr 2, 2018

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    I do not believe the error to be just happenstance, but rather an intentional block. It is not the first time, I have run into this while trying to reply to some of TDs bullshit. :cool:
     
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  9. The Midnight Skulker, Apr 2, 2018

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    I also got a server error attempting to post a reply on another thread which contained no emoticons. On previous occasions I have had posts with emoticons, both in quoted text and/or my response, get server errors, and tried getting around the error by removing them. Sometimes the magic worked, but sometimes it didn't, strongly suggesting they are not the problem.

    The error message I got a few minutes ago said I had to wait 18 seconds before retrying to post a reply. I have received this message in the past, tried again, and wound up with duplicate postings, so this time I simply waited (while saving my post to the clipboard) and my post did eventually make it, though it was also saved in the Write A Reply area so I'll have to watch it if I post another reply to that thread.

    In the past Jacob has rejected all signups, presumably to thwart spambots like the one I suspect is registering UserIDs ending in "GAT". (I stumbled on this condition one time when I logged on but neglected to click the "already got one" button.) Nevertheless, I would expect rejecting a stream of registrations and suspected spam (like the ones with a URL in the subject we got a raft of a while back) to consume server resources. Hence I suspect this may be the cause of server errors due to resource overload, another message I have received on accasion.
     
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  10. von duck, Apr 2, 2018

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    There are no "little green men". I believe my replies to you have been censored, by somebody, I mean let's face it, you are not here just making posts, you have an agenda, and it's not just a hobby or passtime, more like a job. You have a line to tow, your statements, are not your own, they belong to your "master". :cool:
     
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    Nice try, Ma'am. :) I tried to reinsert the statements as an edit to another post, and got the "all too convenient " server error. Ma'am. Oops, I thought I was replying to MsPiss's post. I'll leave it up just for fun. :D
     
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    These percentages that you quote, where did you get the numbers? This sort of info would generally only be available to someone deep on the inside, who by the way, would never admit to any shananigans, would they. What would be your access be, that you would be privy, to such accurate %s? :cool:
     
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    I do not believe the error to be accidental, it was too pointed, as was the wording in my attempted post. It's censorship, almost certainly. :cool:
     
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  14. random_roller, Apr 2, 2018

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    Aside from electronic craps, are there any other electronic table games (e.g., blackjack, roulette) at your local casino? If so, that 12.47% figure is a blended number. BTW, based upon the latest published FYTD2018 numbers, I'll probably pass on playing craps at Lakeside Casino.

    Another big difference between the live game and electronic version is payouts. How many times do you see a player at a live table make a $10 (or $25/$26) Place 6 or 8 bet? Ugh. Getting paid to the penny on a winning bet is a big advantage of electronic craps.
     
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    It's publicly available information. Try a search on Google.
     
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    It's a blended number now but even when roulette was the only machine it ran around 20% and when the craps machine went in the numbers dropped to the 8-12% per month range. The BJ machine went in real late in 2017, November, if I remember correctly. I'm chewing on the gaming managers ear trying to get them to put in a Baccarat machine.

    I quit going to lakeside even before I found the site to check the monthly numbers. The small sample means more variance but, something is out of whack there plus, they took out the table I liked and replaced it with a table with different bounce and a super bouncy layout. The most common call on that table is "Dice down outside"
     
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    They're all public knowledge on the internet. You can find them for Nevada too if you care to look for them.
     
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  18. von duck, Apr 2, 2018

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    I would not know where to look. I have never heard a Casio divulge there exact numbers in this manner, no, something doesn't fit hear. :confused: I'll await his explanation, see how "good" it is. Give me these figures to this degree of accuracy, for any casino of your choosing, then tell me how I might access the same info. :cool:
     
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    The post to which I referred in #109 above was #9 in the CRAPS REGULARS AND TIPPING thread. Perhaps you can spot some "pointed wording" in it that would have given the server cause for concern; I cannot, and as I said the post did eventually clear whatever checks that caused the 18-second delay.
     
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    I've seen the figures for Nevada, but they didn't break it down by individual casinos, just for the intire state. Does your state have only one casino, and if so what state would that be. :cool:
     
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