Due theory, influence and math

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by KokomoJoe4, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. DeMango, Feb 26, 2019

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    At least he does race. AssHall play? Too busy posting here.
     
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  2. James Hall, Feb 26, 2019

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    That's TDVegas' line you still sucking up to him??
    If you had a game or anything near it you wouldn't
    be spending your life on the tables chasing losses , trying
    to bet back even . Wise up turd a winner doesn't have to spend HIS LIFE
    at the tables.
    Take the occasional trip , get on the , "WOW WHACKER GO ROUND"
    take the cash and head for the hacienda.
    YOU spend way too much time at it and remember
    Time is on the casino's side.
     
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  3. James Hall, Feb 26, 2019

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    Torques your jaws , does it ???
    Well DARN , HECK , POOP , HELL
     
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  4. von duck, Feb 26, 2019

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    Was he who's tapes were always "self destructing". :)
     
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  5. TDVegas, Feb 26, 2019

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  6. James Hall, Feb 26, 2019

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    Strategy A ---$28
    Strategy B ---$60
    Strategy C ---$348 plus the added bonus of the 6s all being hard ways.
    That qualifies of a "WOW WHACKER".
    That hard 6 could be up there in the $5,000 to $10,000 range
    depending on how you play it .
    Just think what that would be if they let you parlay that third hit
    on the hard 6.

    Now see this is one of those helpful hints you never see
    or just flat deny.
     
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  7. JL Vegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    Without going through your nearly 14,000 posts, I am sitting here wondering why you are so despised by some here? I see you bet across, as do I, and apparently as does Gargoil’s, who has returned after his many months of absence, and all three of us will walk if we PSO, but only you become the target of hateful replies. Why do you believe that is, what am I missing?
     
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  8. DeMango, Mar 2, 2019

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    Reading the “hateful “ replies is the better way to figure this out. Consider them mostly truthful, although I think Liman reply’s are the best.

    Despised by almost all is better. Exception is Two Dense Billy, because of course he is too dense.
     
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  9. James Hall, Mar 2, 2019

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    Despised by almost all while not being better would in deed
    be more accurate ,

    tdvGAS at one point stated that 90%
    of the members here agree with his assessment of the game
    and that was probably more correct than not , in fact I might
    even agree to 95% or more agree with him over me.
    Because an opinion is more popular however does not make it more correct.
    It could simply mean that the majority of the people in question
    are holding an opinion they believe to be correct , when in fact it is not.

    People form opinions based upon what they see , feel and hear .
    when someone submits facts that bring those opinions into question
    problems arise.
    A case in point would be the question whether or not
    Dice Control / Influence can be an efficient or effective tool in the effort
    to win while playing craps. While the majority on this forum think not
    some including myself have used this strategy TO WIN consistently.
    That fact has on many occasions been very strongly challenged
    by many on this board. Because there is no way for them to
    effectively prove that the art does not exist they challenge
    almost every post regarding DI hoping to get those posts to stop.

    Some on this board who have a rudimentary ability in the art
    have tried very hard on many many occasions to get me to stop
    talking about it . Demango for one has stated repeatedly that
    I should , "Just shut my mouth about DI"
    Because I haven't and won't he and others continue to apply
    more and more pressure.

    tdvGAS at one point said, "James Hall seems to think
    that the casinos are his own ATM and his own personal vault"
    Then attributed that statement to me and it goes on and on.

    I won't stop posting and I won't quit the forum like so many other
    fine players have.
    They hate that.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    I think TDV said 99% of the members agreed with me that you either concocted, lied, deceived or tried to "put one over" on forum members regarding your play, trip report....and 99% believed that, in fact. 99% is good enough to convict. The evidence was overwhelming.

    Since then...I tend not to believe just about anything from you regarding your claimed "ability" to win at craps.

    Once you lose credibility here...and no, you do not get to determine your own credibility. Others do, based on your postings.

    99%....I would say agree with me. There might be a few boot lickers who gave you a pass. The 1%.

    It is what it is. Once you go the route you did...look out below.
     
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  11. JL Vegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    Obviously you and Gargoil’s are on the same page with regards to the DI issue. Those supporting Gargoil’s have also dismissed, in general the benefits derived from DI as Gargoil’s has recently posted, yet flame you for making similar statements in support of DI. I would also suspect both you and Gargoil’s subscribe to playing the short game, which also seems to go against the grain of your distractors.

    For reasons not fully made clear, there is certainly a dislike of the messsenger, and not necessarily the message by some members; not by all members.
     
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  12. tabletop123, Mar 2, 2019

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    I would suspect that YOU are the " Sherlock Holmes..who dunnit detective" on the forum.
     
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  13. tabletop123, Mar 2, 2019

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    Maybe an "arbitrator" of sorts?
     
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  14. James Hall, Mar 2, 2019

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    What you believe is not evidence anymore than your opinions are fact.
    It's not a matter of not believing , it's a matter that the facts
    are detrimental to every OPINION you hold on the game of craps.
    Your firmly held OPINION that people can't win is constantly undermined.
    That is the real reason for your animosity.
    You came at me with my first post, stating that I use Dice Influence
    to play and do quite well. You couldn't handle it then and
    you can't now.
    You have no skill and YOU WILL NOT ABIDE the fact that anyone does.
    My skill allows me to win , it irks you that you cannot disprove that fact.
    That is an absolute fact and there is nothing can be done
    for those who see people win on a consistent basis but yet
    make no effort to learn and worse deny that it happens.
    Those boot lickers as you put it are the few who have developed a
    skill and are working to continually improve.
    I know you wish they would stop posting when and how they win
    it makes you and your constant effort to lead people to believe
    "THERE IS NO SKILL ONLY LUCK" look totally foolish by comparison.
    Yep , IT truly IS WHAT IT IS but IT isn't what you think IT IS.
    Your constant denial of DICE CONTROL / INFLUENCE does
    nothing to make it untrue , your constant denial change nothing.
    People are using Dice Control / Influence to win
    nothing you can say or do will change that , it works
    THAT IS WHAT IT IS
    Sooner or later you will have to consign yourself to the fact that
    Dice influence is here to stay , people are using to win
    and that TREND will continue and it will continue to grow
    regardless of your efforts.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    You're not reading what I said. I said 99% agree with me that you either concocted, lied, deceived or tried to "put one over" the forum with your ill advised trip report, paradox, whatever.....

    Since then....your credibility has been in question.

    Nothing to do with opinions on DI or otherwise.

    Simply you did something un-advised to try and play a joke, paradox....and it wasn't well received by 99%, who considered it a hit on your overall credibility.

    This 99% has nothing to do with a belief or not in dice influence or dice control.
     
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  16. JL Vegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    Well then, do you believe JH was also fabricating a tale when he recently posted, stopped by the Red Rock Casino to see you, or words to those affects. From the picture it sure does look like Red Rock Casino, with a picture of JH standing in front.
     
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    Ever hear of Photoshop?
     
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  18. TDVegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    Right. No one ever said he's a figment. I believe he exists. I believe he resides in Arizona or Texas or somewhere. I believe he was at Red Rock.

    What does that have to do with fabricating a tale or paradox or trying to put one over the forum as it relates to a win?

    His credibility is related to craps....not his existence.
     
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  19. James Hall, Mar 2, 2019

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    From his posts I am quite sure he is a practitioner of the art ,
    I am equally sure that he is more than a little successful.
    Quite true and as far as I can figure people in that group
    fall into two categories:

    1) those who have not attempted to learn about it

    2) those who have haphazardly made some effort but failed.
    Yes this is true and there are two very strong reasons for this
    seemingly counter intuitive situation

    1) As in any argument ,
    once a person feels the argument is lost , they no longer attack the message
    they revert to attacking the messenger.

    2) When dealing with toxic people it is important to understand that
    When they realize they cannot change a person or
    that persons attitudes or opinions they begin to try to effect / change
    how other people think of that person.

    So they are using both in an effort to , "DRIVE ME OFF"
    as they have so many others.
    Some of the ones who have since left this forum
    are very fine players and
    were actually people who trained some of the
    players on this forum who are presently quite successfully
    employing the art.
     
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  20. TDVegas, Mar 2, 2019

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    I don't think you need to. I'm pretty sure you've already seen them.
     
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